Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

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Re: Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Post by paulv1958 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:59 pm

Tks Zoltan.

Its a fun kit.

Long way to go yet.
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Occre Albatros
AL Endeavour Longboat
AL Spanish Galleon Heritage Kit
Panart : Between Gun decks ( bashed)
Caldercraft Endeavour.
AL King of Mississippi
Corel Victory Cross Section

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AL Santa Ana ( Next Build)
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Re: Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Post by GaryM » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:41 pm

Sounds like the kit was never assembled by the company. So, nice to catch the error and looks great. Ships follow rules so I am sure your solution is probably exactly how the real one was built.
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Re: Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Post by paulv1958 » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:30 am

Tks Gary,

I don't think I've come across the perfect instructions on any kit yet.
Panart is the worst I've done, followed by AL, who do not only get the instructions wrong, they just leave any info out. ]

I hear billings sucks...

The AL "San Juan XII" is a classic case. Its a really nice kit and model but....

The build info ends at hull completion and the advice is " The most hard and dedicated work is done . All the superstructure parts shown on the photographs( 2 of them) are very easy to build up. You just have to assemble and glue them together" and "Due to the amount of cordage that makes up the rigging, we feel that an explanation referring to each one would only lead to confusion."


I'm not kidding...

I've since discovered that an 'AL' Classic Kit means . No info , we trust you know what your doing.....

Pity the first timer...

Thankfully this is where forums and members build sharing are awesome.

Only problem is I keep picking ships that don't have a log or their in an Italian / Polish / Russian site, with google translate doing an :angry-banghead: :lol: :music-rockout: job.
Already built:


Occre Albatros
AL Endeavour Longboat
AL Spanish Galleon Heritage Kit
Panart : Between Gun decks ( bashed)
Caldercraft Endeavour.
AL King of Mississippi
Corel Victory Cross Section

On shelf
AL Santa Ana ( Next Build)
Caldercraft HMS Victory

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Re: Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Post by GemmaJF » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:19 am

Your task here is to put that all right Paul and give us a build log we can all follow. :D

Regarding Billing I have the Bounty as my next big build, here are the instructions that come with it:

http://www.billingboats.com/components/ ... Bounty.pdf


Glad I started with the Pearl, at least that has lots of images of an actual build, even if it is a bit short on words.
Current Build: ZHL Black Pearl 1:50

Next Up: Billing Boats Bounty 1:50

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Re: Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Post by paulv1958 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:20 am

Just a quick update:

Main deck hatch and slide way added. No issues
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Bow knightheds & Tack added. The tack precut was way to long and had to be significantly shorted to fit. Just a PIA to modify, but all worked in the end
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Cat Davit added next, This was an interesting build as there was no pre cut and it consisted of 1 2 x 6mm walnut piece and 4 5 x 5 walnut pieces that had to be shaped and glued. The final Davits were pinned and glued together for strength. A slot was cut ( love the dremel) on each for the sheave.
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Finally the mast Çarling was added to complete the structure.
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Oh and BTW I did not know the names of these items nor their use, I'm just repeating from the parts list. BUT I will look it up. The Davits are used for the anchor I know that...


PS
1: A davit is any of various cranelike devices used on a ship for supporting, raising, and lowering boats, anchors, etc.
2; A carling is,Fore and aftdeck timbers set between the deck beams to stiffen them and support the ledges.

FYI ref: https://brown.edu/Departments/Joukowsky ... 920584.pdf

See you soon.
Already built:


Occre Albatros
AL Endeavour Longboat
AL Spanish Galleon Heritage Kit
Panart : Between Gun decks ( bashed)
Caldercraft Endeavour.
AL King of Mississippi
Corel Victory Cross Section

On shelf
AL Santa Ana ( Next Build)
Caldercraft HMS Victory

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Re: Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Post by Donnie » Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:34 pm

Nice detail with the brass pulleys.

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Re: Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Post by paulv1958 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:56 am

Tks Donnie, Sometimes Occre surprise you with little added details, but other manufacturing decisions...

As you will see in the following photos, some strange manufacturing decisions were made.

Next up was the pumps and ships bell housing, & major cleats.

The parts consisted of wood and metal combinations, with the metal being white metal, a brown metal ( ??) and brass.
Why?? only they can tell you. Also the kit suggested painting the metal parts light brown or cream. ( to simulate wood ?). It looked bad.
My solution paint / stain black as per most kits. Whilst not as occre suggested. I was happy with the final result.

Gluing up the pump parts. ( CA thick)
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All the parts, note the brown metal?
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Stained and painted and added to ship. There is still a brown clrat to give show how bad it looks painted as suggested. Will paint black later.
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Upper deck balustrade & carving work

The backing board is not the same size as the metal carving piece. Its longer and higher so has to be sanded to pit. I did this pre-fitting so that once the decoration was added later it fitted. Also to line up the balustrade position mid deck, I used the center symbol of the carving to line up with the center of the lower deck and column support
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supports added
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Display carving relief, primer added to metal to prevent paint peel later.
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Another personal decision was made due to the instructions to painting the relief cream / brown to paint all relief work black /gold leaf. I think it looks a lot nicer.

Adding the gold leaf to the relief work ( Tamiya Gild leaf Acrylic) ( back added after)
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Completed Balustrade, capping added.
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Next was to add back the cannon port doors and associated ring pulls / handles ( 92 eyelets & rings). The kit also called for the oar openings to be re added and closed. As the kit supplied full oars for all the ports. I have decided to place the oar in rowing position rather than bundled on deck as suggested. ( see later in log when I get to it.)
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Cannon port doorways
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Finally the upper bulwark was painted black and external carvings added ( leaf gold as per previous decision)
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The metal castings were in good condition, the only modification needed was the flower below on the lighter wood. I used the dremel to grind out the spacing between the petals as it was closed up and looked odd and did not show off the petals clearly.
Already built:


Occre Albatros
AL Endeavour Longboat
AL Spanish Galleon Heritage Kit
Panart : Between Gun decks ( bashed)
Caldercraft Endeavour.
AL King of Mississippi
Corel Victory Cross Section

On shelf
AL Santa Ana ( Next Build)
Caldercraft HMS Victory

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Re: Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Post by GemmaJF » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:05 am

She is really coming to life with the detailing, beautiful work Paul :greetings-clapyellow:
Current Build: ZHL Black Pearl 1:50

Next Up: Billing Boats Bounty 1:50

Researching for POB scratch build : HMS Ferret 1:48 (1711)

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Re: Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Post by GaryM » Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:01 pm

Nice decisions. This makes the model come alive.
Happy modeling,
Gary Maple

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Current build: Sergal Sovereign of the Seas
In Que: Sergal: Cutty Sark and Amerigo Vespucci; Billings Titanic
Completed: Amati: HMS Prince (old 1:78 version); Billings: Norske Love and Vasa; Mantua: La Couronne; Sergal: Mississippi Riverboat and La Soleil Royal

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Re: Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Post by mtbediz » Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:12 am

Beautiful job Paul, congratulations.

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