Halifax Build Log: Lumberyard

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Re: Halifax Build Log: Lumberyard

Post by donfarr » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:12 pm

Thanks Dave, Good for me to check make to many assumptions that turn out wrong, after I complete the half frames will go to the DREADED CANT FRAMES WILL NEED YOUR HELP THERE, always screw up the bevels, do not understand all the lines. THANKS Don

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Re: Halifax Build Log: Lumberyard

Post by lauckstreet » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:24 pm

Hi Don,

Good job on framing the Halifax. Looks like you're almost home free now once you add those last few cant frames. The cant frames are always the most difficult and don't feel bad, the bevels caused me a lot of confusion at first. I recall making the mistake of cutting them both the same so I'd end up with two right sides or two left sides. Had to remake some a couple of times on some scratchbuilt models. My philosophy is, hey...it's only wood so you can always make the part over again. :D

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Re: Halifax Build Log: Lumberyard

Post by didit » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:57 am

My philosophy is, hey...it's only wood so you can always make the part over again.
bob

that is a great statement a number of model builders make the comment "I would love to build a plank on frame model, but I am afraid I will mess it up" Actually you can't mess it up because you can always remake the part over and over or take things apart and try again.

there are 2 schools of thought on cant frames.
1 cut bevels and finish the frame then install it into the hull
2 install oversized "blanks": in the hull and sand and shape the bow as a unit

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Re: Halifax Build Log: Lumberyard

Post by donfarr » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:08 am

THANKS, BOB AND DAVE, prefer to cut bevels before installing on the model but have a blank on where to start, finishing up the half frames on the other side then will post more progress pictures. Don

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Re: Halifax Build Log: Lumberyard

Post by lauckstreet » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:35 am

didit wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:57 am
My philosophy is, hey...it's only wood so you can always make the part over again.
bob

that is a great statement a number of model builders make the comment "I would love to build a plank on frame model, but I am afraid I will mess it up" Actually you can't mess it up because you can always remake the part over and over or take things apart and try again.

there are 2 schools of thought on cant frames.
1 cut bevels and finish the frame then install it into the hull
2 install oversized "blanks": in the hull and sand and shape the bow as a unit
Yep, I totally agree with you Dave. It's far easier for a scratchbuilder to remake a part than someone building a kit because the kit builder has to go to a lot of trouble sometimes to get a new part. But the scratchbuilder simply picks up a new piece of wood and tries again. Of course a kit builder can do that too if he has the tools to remake the kit part but often new modelers don't have a large collection of tools for scratchbuilding.

I know from experience that lofting cant frames is not an easy task, even if you're using a CAD program. So in my early years of kit development I did what you suggested - created oversized blanks and installed them and then just faired it all out with all of the frames attached. That works just as well but it does wear your arm out with all that sanding and produces a nice pile of sawdust :text-lol:

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Re: Halifax Build Log: Lumberyard

Post by JosephH » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:12 am

Lol Bob thats why i have a mini skive/spokeshave to save the arm
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Re: Halifax Build Log: Lumberyard

Post by donfarr » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:21 pm

more progress pictures, going to need help on these
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Re: Halifax Build Log: Lumberyard

Post by Brian077 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:08 pm

thats an exceptional effort Don for your first plank on frame model. Great work so far.
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Re: Halifax Build Log: Lumberyard

Post by donfarr » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:56 pm

Thanks Brian, It is not my first, the Caustic was my first, great learning experience in preperation for the Halifax, still have plenty to learn, some mistakes on this one, hope to be able to fix them when I do the faring of the frames, will show more progress pictures. Don,.....PS ALL CRITISISMS WELCOME ALONG WITH SUGESTIONS

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Re: Halifax Build Log: Lumberyard

Post by donfarr » Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:04 pm

more progress pictures
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