HMS Victory Mantua 1:78 (first build) by Grant Tyler
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Wow Grant. You have been busy and made excellent progress. The channels look superb and I am sure very secure. By the way I like the idea of the piece of 3mm scarp wood taped to the exact position and then pressing the nails again that piece of wood. The indentations left will indicate the exact position for the holes. Clever and ingenious - I learnt something today - thank you!
This model is way more ambitious than I would attempt as a first build but you are doing a great job and it is looking fantastic, maybe one day I might feel confident to attempt a Victory model.
Hello Richie. Thanks. Yep in hindsight(that perfect science we all wish we had) I would have gone for a smaller simpler model as I make so many mistakes in my learning curve. Non the less I am enjoying it and thus far happy. Luckily the guys and Ladies on SOS are helpful and share so much. I would hate to think what I would have built if not for this forum. Cheers
Hello Richie. Thanks. Yep in hindsight(that perfect science we all wish we had) I would have gone for a smaller simpler model as I make so many mistakes in my learning curve. Non the less I am enjoying it and thus far happy. Luckily the guys and Ladies on SOS are helpful and share so much. I would hate to think what I would have built if not for this forum. Cheers
Cheers Heinrich. Sometimes finding a way to overcome my weaknesses(one of mine is the inability to get my measurements mm exact) stimulates my grey matter.
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Most impressive build! Hard to match.
I had the deadeye issue as well; ended up changing the orientation of those "wrongly" installed deadeyes...
Although the canons and opened up ports pose an impressive sight, I wonder how ships of this era would look with ports closed, anybody ever build or seen a module like that?
I had the deadeye issue as well; ended up changing the orientation of those "wrongly" installed deadeyes...
Although the canons and opened up ports pose an impressive sight, I wonder how ships of this era would look with ports closed, anybody ever build or seen a module like that?
Thank you. I think @Alexander74 is going to build his Victory with closed gun ports. I’m looking forward to what an experienced and talented builder like Sasha it going to do with this ship.
Execelent job on the chain plates/dead eyes Grant. The color contrast along the gun ports makes this ship a real pleasure to look at!
Looking good Grant. Lots of hours of work in those last posts. Tip from one rookie to another. When you install the metal straps that hold the deadeyes to the hull (below the channels) those straps are to align with the shrouds. I suspect you know that but just in case...it would be a painful re-do.
She’s a beauty, Grant. Love watching how you work around to make things just so.
Yes, the lower two decks will definitely be closed. There will be some guns on the operdek. Most likely everyone will be higher.
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In the mean time I checked out @Alexander74 's build. Impressive model and fascinating to read through his log.
Geez Grant those pics look spectacular!!
This is truly a magnificent modelI decided to keep the nail heads brass as they fit in with the Mantua brass gun port frames and decorations above the gun ports.
I circled my dead eye I put in wrong way around. These dead eyes (found out a little late) are not uniform and are directional in fitting. They are also not uniform in the placement of the actual holes in each dead eye- I’m not sure this will be noticed.
Blue circle I broke my cannon downward when placing the channel. This is the most difficult one to fit
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PS guys photos do change the angle of the supports. (and the channels in my previous post) - my heart sank when I re read my post but double checked and whew, they are good
No-one but you would've noticed the deadeye the wrong way round Grant lol. As for the downward-pointing cannon, while the rest of the guns are firing at the enemy's masts and spars, that will be the one to damage the ship's lower hull and rudder ... everything happens for a reason
Thanks Mark. Hope you having stunning weather down in Aussie. 30• here today but the SW starting to pick up. Kite boarding timeThis is truly a magnificent model
Good morning from a sunny Cape Town. Disaster struck my building yesterday. I decided to make the mizzen mast (lower section) as I want to be able to do some rigging while still making parts etc.
Here my problems began- the plan sheets are not too scale but 35% reduced- ok no problem. But some of the measurements are indicated at full scale. Red circle...but I thought I worked it out. The second plan shows the cheeks fitting over the bibbs which is not accurate but decided to stay with the plan.
I squared off the 8mm dowel to 6x6 per instruction plan sheet. Measured four line points and used a 6mm plank to mark the dowel. Placed in a micro vise and tappered using an exacto blade. Then smooth it down with 200gritt sand paper- I need to find a better method as while it looks good, it is not 100%. Made the trussel trees (parts supplied) but they where 6x5??. Reduced my dowel square(now rectangular). ???
Exacto blade slip. Sanded the dowel so the cheeks and Bibbs fit flusher than in photo.
Brought out my siren and added 8 cap supports (not in plan). Measured and checked the angles of the Crows nest and Trussel trees and glued everything together- came out good.
- all my measurements are wrong. I’m going to have to break it all up and redo. Anyway apologies for the rushed post I have to attend a meeting quick - Cheers
Here my problems began- the plan sheets are not too scale but 35% reduced- ok no problem. But some of the measurements are indicated at full scale. Red circle...but I thought I worked it out. The second plan shows the cheeks fitting over the bibbs which is not accurate but decided to stay with the plan.
I squared off the 8mm dowel to 6x6 per instruction plan sheet. Measured four line points and used a 6mm plank to mark the dowel. Placed in a micro vise and tappered using an exacto blade. Then smooth it down with 200gritt sand paper- I need to find a better method as while it looks good, it is not 100%. Made the trussel trees (parts supplied) but they where 6x5??. Reduced my dowel square(now rectangular). ???
Exacto blade slip. Sanded the dowel so the cheeks and Bibbs fit flusher than in photo.
Brought out my siren and added 8 cap supports (not in plan). Measured and checked the angles of the Crows nest and Trussel trees and glued everything together- came out good.
- all my measurements are wrong. I’m going to have to break it all up and redo. Anyway apologies for the rushed post I have to attend a meeting quick - CheersAttachments
Grant, I'm not sure I understand where you went wrong (it all looked good to me in the photos) but I wish you good luck with the re-do all the sameGood morning from a sunny Cape Town. Disaster struck my building yesterday. I decided to make the mizzen mast (lower section) as I want to be able to do some rigging while still making parts etc.
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Here my problems began- the plan sheets are not too scale but 35% reduced- ok no problem. But some of the measurements are indicated at full scale. Red circle...but I thought I worked it out. The second plan shows the cheeks fitting over the bibbs which is not accurate but decided to stay with the plan.
I squared off the 8mm dowel to 6x6 per instruction plan sheet. Measured four line points and used a 6mm plank to mark the dowel. Placed in a micro vise and tappered using an exacto blade. Then smooth it down with 200gritt sand paper- I need to find a better method as while it looks good, it is not 100%. Made the trussel trees (parts supplied) but they where 6x5??. Reduced my dowel square(now rectangular). ???
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Exacto blade slip. Sanded the dowel so the cheeks and Bibbs fit flusher than in photo.
Brought out my siren and added 8 cap supports (not in plan). Measured and checked the angles of the Crows nest and Trussel trees and glued everything together- came out good.
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Ferrari cars, HMS Victory, and now kite boarding; is there no limit to your talents Grant? Throw in a couple of Dean's 'models' and I'd definitely say you're living in the fast laneThanks Mark. Hope you having stunning weather down in Aussie. 30• here today but the SW starting to pick up. Kite boarding time
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Yes you got me stumped as well. I have no idea why you say the measurements are wrong ???Grant, I'm not sure I understand where you went wrong (it all looked good to me in the photos) but I wish you good luck with the re-do all the same
Hi Grant
I'm not sure why you needed the 8 cap supports in a vertical position. It seems like they would interfere with your shroud lines and second tier mast. I've attached a couple pictures of my HMS Fly, hope this might help. The tops appear very similar since they both are British ships.
I'm not sure why you needed the 8 cap supports in a vertical position. It seems like they would interfere with your shroud lines and second tier mast. I've attached a couple pictures of my HMS Fly, hope this might help. The tops appear very similar since they both are British ships.
Ferrari cars, HMS Victory, and now kite boarding; is there no limit to your talents Grant? Throw in a couple of Dean's 'models' and I'd definitely say you're living in the fast lane
need a real Ferrari to agree with you Mark