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Making your own Ropes

Phillipsart said:
Yes. I think I did run a different speed on the bok than I did on the Weil. So I need to make sure I run both at the same speed?
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Yes, from personal experience, the rotation speed is about the same. The gear ratio in the “WHEEL” is 1:1, so if the potentiometers are set to the same position, the speed will be almost identical. The “BOK” will rotate slightly faster because there is less resistance.

Phillipsart said:
Is 200 grams enough or should I still increase the weight?
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I use about 350 to 400 gram for rope that is 1,5 mm in diameter.


Phillipsart said:
Also I did not add any friction to the cone. I had that set loose. Should I have had more friction on the cone with the thicker ropes?
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I wouldn't use this setting at this early stage. It's intended solely for making tough rope and increasing the number of twists per centimeter. For standard rope, it's best to use the machine's weight and speed settings.
 
Gutterman E 382 thread
3x10 350 gram weight. 10%
1.8mm rope

Looked perfect al the way through. Left it sit for some 5 minutes after a placed some instant glue at the ends and as soon I cut the wiel end it unwound the first half meter. The rest was fine.

This is what happened with the last one. I reckon it’s winding tight enough.

Think I might need to get my mini heat gun into the last section near the wiel before I cut it.

If only I remember where I put my heat gun.

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The weight looks good now, maybe add 50 grams. Just try and don't be afraid to use to much. Thick ropes can hold a lot of weight without breaking. The consistance of the rope looks real good, except the last part.
Slow a little bit down the speed of the "BOK" and go to 11 or 12 % instead of 10% with the thicker ropes. And see what happens. The unravel is because the strands are not turned enough.
Another way is to stop at 1 meter before the end with your early settings, wait a minute and slow the "BOK" and start again turning.
 
Y.T. said:
I highly recommend this simple device.it gave me complete control of rope making. save me lots of money.it is very simple to operate.I own it for many years.

www.shipworkshop.com

Rope making machine. VR. Vertical type. | ShipWorkshop.com

Simplest, fastest, easiest, compact, no skills needed, instant results. It is a small but powerful tool for making professional ropes for your model. (Check this video on YouTube for how it works. Turn on subtitles.) The VR Rope making machine, ropewalk, is intended for making professional ropes...
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I have just bought one. The adventure begins again LOL
 
Phillipsart said:
I ordered the PL4 from Domanof

I will try the Guterman thread available locally and experiment. the suggested thread mentioned don’t appear to be available in Australia.

The Guterman treads available here in store where I live are just called Guterman polyester thread.

I will first try this one shown in image

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How did you go with this thread, Philip? I am quite excited I may be able to buy locally.
 
GaryA said:
How did you go with this thread, Philip? I am quite excited I may be able to buy locally.
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Sorry Gary. I never tried it. I ended up buying the Gutterman E Thread from Ropes of Scale.

Buying these small runs of thread here in Australia as shown in the image is to expensive.

For example the rope I made today. 1.8mm taken 120 meters of thread to make 3.50 meters

The E threads available from Ropes of Scale are sold in 6000 to 10,000 meter rolls for apx $26.00 AU. Freight about the same.
 
Phillipsart said:
Sorry Gary. I never tried it. I ended up buying the Gutterman E Thread from Ropes of Scale.

Buying these small runs of thread here in Australia as shown in the image is to expensive.

For example the rope I made today. 1.8mm taken 120 meters of thread to make 3.50 meters

The E threads available from Ropes of Scale are sold in 6000 to 10,000 meter rolls for apx $26.00 AU. Freight about the same.
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The same old story, hey.
BTW, though, I just saw an article, or even better still, an agent for the Gutterman E thread you mentioned, and believe it or not, here in W.A., and about 40 ks from me, there is a place that supplies it. Check this address. homecrafttextiles.com.au. Procastinator placed it on this thread. Said spools sell at $3.99. I will try to ring them today.
BTW, I am years infront of myself but trying to get all my rope making stuff in house just incase something silly in this crazy world happens.
Cheers
 
GaryA said:
The same old story, hey.
BTW, though, I just saw an article, or even better still, an agent for the Gutterman E thread you mentioned, and believe it or not, here in W.A., and about 40 ks from me, there is a place that supplies it. Check this address. homecrafttextiles.com.au. Procastinator placed it on this thread. Said spools sell at $3.99. I will try to ring them today.
BTW, I am years infront of myself but trying to get all my rope making stuff in house just incase something silly in this crazy world happens.
Cheers
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I don’t see any of the Guterman E thread on the website. I do see Tera. But I didn’t have a lot of success with the Tera thread. At least not as successful as the E thread. Also what’s available in Australia colour wise is not as good as the colours available overseas. Such as the dark brown. They just don’t compare. I haven’t even tried the tan thread here in Australia.
 
Steef66 said:
Here is the shop where I ordered. And yes we have to pay a lot too for shipping and fee. Uk is not Eu anymore for trade.
www.williamgee.co.uk

Gutermann Skala 360 Threads - Fast Delivery | William Gee UK

20000m cone. Gutermann Sewing Thread Skala 360, 100% Gutermann Thread, Buy Gutermann Skala 360 Sewing Threads Online and other products at williamgee.co.uk
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Hi Steve, what is the difference between what you use and the Guterman E121
 
GaryA said:
Hi Steve, what is the difference between what you use and the Guterman E121
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E121/151 is recycled polyester and not transparend. Skala is a little transparend but also thinner. When turned to rope the difference is not seen, except E is a little fuzzie, just a little. Only Skala give a possibility to turn 3x1 rope that is 0,15 mm in diameter.
 
Steef66 said:
E121/151 is recycled polyester and not transparend. Skala is a little transparend but also thinner. When turned to rope the difference is not seen, except E is a little fuzzie, just a little. Only Skala give a possibility to turn 3x1 rope that is 0,15 mm in diameter.
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Thanks for that. So 0.15mm is very thin.
What would you use that sized rope on, very small-scale models?
 
Just another thing that has come up that blows me away. In the old days of sailing ropes were measured by their circumference. Not such a big deal, but how would they have measured them? Does anyone know?
I noticed in the book Armed Transport Bounty by John McKay, there are a few pages of tiny writing giving the circumference of the ropes used in reference to numbered ropes on another page. I had to get my new glasses at a later date (LOL) to make out the word circumference and then a figure measurement given.
Earlier, I could not make out if the rope was 3.5" in diameter, and so I googled to find out what was the way rope was measured, and sure enough, by the circumference. Then I came back to the book again to the pages, and there are so many rope sizes it blew me away, and hence that is why I am in here learning about from you guys, as this is where it all happens and what I need to do, so plenty of information is better than a sentence for me. :oops: RedfaceRedface
 
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