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Sovereign of the Seas - Mantua by Brian

Bri62 said:
some slight bleeding occurred
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I think the seam of paint looks really good Bri,
For the future, after applying the tape and making sure it was sealed well spray the seam with a clear coat first. This will seal the edge if there is any slight lifting. Pays to give it a couple coats along the seam. No need to coat the entire area, just the seam so it is sealed shut. Once thoroughly dry apply the color paint with brush or spray.

Allan
 
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Lologaditano said:
What difficulties have you encountered with the upper decks?
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If you could be more specific that would help but, I never used the upper deck bulkheads as I found them difficult to shape I used strips of wood instead other than that they were ok.
As for the gun decks thats a whole can of worms nothing lined up with the gun ports so there was no fixing for the guns on 70% of them.
Hope that helps
 
Very impressive Brian, I still WANT this kit, even with the terrible instructions, isn't there another manufacturer that made this model? I will look but since it is on my mind.....
 
CharlesEdward said:
I still WANT this kit, even with the terrible instructions, i
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If you want to kit bash it could be a fun project as it sure has been for Bri. First thing I would do is get rid of the cannons. She was outfitted with Browne pattern guns which were commonly used at the same time as the Pitt pattern cannon from about 1625 to 1650. They were designed and manufactured by the Master gun founder John Browne.

Regarding the ones in the kit, I cannot find pictures of any English cannon that look like them. Anyone have any information on the name of that particular pattern or who used them?

The carriages look right for the Browne pattern gun with only two trucks instead of four.

Allan
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Bri62 said:
Allen, while it would be historically correct that's a lot of cannons to replace and at a considerable expense I did consider this but in the end to ditch 25% of the brass was a step to far :)
Brian
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Sorry Brian, I never meant that you should replace them at this point, it was meant as a point for future builders. Browne pattern guns can be had for about $1 each if printed resin is OK for any builder here in the US so I would think it would be similar in Europe. They can be painted bronze or in some cases printed in bronze colored resin. I have 3D drawings of various size Browne pattern guns for anyone interested.
Again, sorry for creating any agita.
Allan
 
Don't apologise Allan I can see where your coming from but this would only be an option for scratch builders as the kit comes with cannons included all in brass.
 
Bri62 said:
Don't know if I should black/blue the hinges or leave the bling ?
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Historically, the gun port hinges on the Sovereign of the Seas (1637) were made of iron and blackened with tar (or painted a dark charcoal/black) to protect them from the corrosive salt sea air. [1, 2]
However, because it was the most ostentatiously decorated royal prestige warship of its time, you have two distinct options depending on whether you are aiming for true historical accuracy or standard model kit aesthetics

1. Historical Accuracy (Blackened / Dark)
2. Commercial Model Kit Standard (Brass / Gold / Bronze)

TBH I think there is enough Bling going to black them
 
Bri62 said:
only be an option for scratch builders as the kit comes with cannons included all in brass.
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Thanks. I get it Brian, but you know as well as anyone that kit bashing can be part of the fun of our hobby and that could include replacing the cannon if that kind of thing matters. I wish I knew why they included those in the kit to begin with, but so be it.
Regardless, your work is to be very much admired!
Allan
 
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