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HMS Victory by Caldercraft (10 months in )

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For more people in the know a question! I am toying with the idea of getting this for my next build as Its on special here in the UK what are your thoughts?

Mantua Models Sergal Sovereign of the Seas 1:78 Scale Wooden Model Ship Kit​

 
For more people in the know a question! I am toying with the idea of getting this for my next build as Its on special here in the UK what are your thoughts?

Mantua Models Sergal Sovereign of the Seas 1:78 Scale Wooden Model Ship Kit​

Not in the know but looking at that model after this one are you sure your not a masochist ? ROTFROTF
 
It pretty much depends on what is important to you. Cost, quality of materials, quality of instructions, accuracy, size, level of frustration you want to deal with, and the list goes on. If the model is in line with your own priorities, get it. If not, there are lots of other choices and maybe some might be a better fit with your own priorities, only you can make that determination.

Two big things that would give me great pause before spending money on this kit. Considering the year she was launched she likely carried Pitt or Browne pattern cannon which look nothing like photos of the cannon in the Mantua kit. The cannon they provide look like the same ones they provide on models from other nations. The kit also shows belaying pins The British did not use belaying pins until more than 100 years after Sovereign burned to the waterline.

Still, it is your hobby and your choice. You can always do some kit bashing to correct the more egregious mistakes IF you so desire. Do whatever makes YOU happy.

Allan
 
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I gather these are the Pitt and Browne cannons your referring to I can't seem to find a picture of the cannons supplied with the kit, what did the Brits use rather than belaying pins
I am pretty surethese Pitt and Brown patterns would be appropriate. I have 3D drawings if you want to have some printed in black or bronze color in the appropriate sizes. Please feel free to PM me so I can email them to you if you would like these, just in case.

Belaying on large ships was done to the rails, timberheads, kevels, cleats, etc. but not belaying pins. When they were introduced in the Royal Navy, pin racks were secured to the shrouds. Small ships sometimes had pin racks on the mizzen shrouds as early as 1720 They became more common on the shrouds after about 1745. Pin racks on bulwarks came about 20 years later. Pins were sometimes in the upper most rails before racks were used. This was not the case in all countries.

A great example is the drawing and list of belaying points for every line on a first rate of the 1733 Establishment in James Lees' The Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War
ISBN 0-87021-948-0 on pages `73-175, This may be pushing the envelope with copyrights, so if the Moderators are concerned, please feel to delete the last three pics.

Look at photos of contemporary models on the RMG site and you will see how the lines were secured in many places on the ships. The photos below are models at Preble Hall.

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From Lees' Masting and Rigging- belaying for a first rate to the 1733 Establishment.
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