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HMS Sphinx - Vanguard Models 1:64 by Ronald-V

Thanks. I am now using same set up thanks to video by Chuck Passaro. This is all one must know about good planking bending technique.
It's a 4 part series and made planking for me understandable...before that I couldn't really grasp it by just reading articles
 
The only note I would like to make regarding this video is that I would not solely rely on CA glue are primary wood bonding agent for planks. Who knows how long this new CA glue will last. Some articles on the net put lifetime limits for CA glue bonds. I would use CA as auxiliary glue but carpenters glue would be my main glue.
 
The only note I would like to make regarding this video is that I would not solely rely on CA glue are primary wood bonding agent for planks. Who knows how long this new CA glue will last. Some articles on the net put lifetime limits for CA glue bonds. I would use CA as auxiliary glue but carpenters glue would be my main glue.
LOL "New CA glue..."

Cyanoacrylate ("super glue") was discovered by Dr. Harry Coover in 1942 while searching for materials to make clear plastic gun sights for WWII. Initially rejected for being too sticky, it was rediscovered by Coover and Fred Joyner in 1951, patented in 1954, and launched commercially as Eastman 910 in 1958.

I've been using it on wood models that withstood the stresses of my RC plane flying for 30 years. :)
 
The only note I would like to make regarding this video is that I would not solely rely on CA glue are primary wood bonding agent for planks. Who knows how long this new CA glue will last. Some articles on the net put lifetime limits for CA glue bonds. I would use CA as auxiliary glue but carpenters glue would be my main glue.
I use a mix of CA and wood glue. When I glued a plank on the hull, at several points I put a little dot of CA and in between covered it with wood glue. Like this •---•---• the wood glue about 2cm long (not an exact science). This worked well, because it holds the plank in place with the CA and you got also the "strength" and durability of wood glue...if that would be a problem. Ofcourse...this works only with a layer of wood underneath. If you just plank a ship with one layer... it's a different approach and just with someone is comfortable with
 
...also, Roland-V, did you find the SoS atmosphere somehow different from MSD? As being a bit more relaxed. No formalities or less obligations?
 
Hello Ronald,

Your hull looks great, as do the other photos you've shown your craftsmanship is wonderful to see.

I saw the Vanguard Models manuals on the website.
They recommend a water-based wood filler from a brand that isn't available in hardware stores here (Ronseal).
This can easily be ordered online, but I have no experience with it.

My question is:

Which wood filler did you use for your first planking?
Did you use a wood filler on the second planking?
And if so, does it match the wood color supplied in the kit?

Regards

Hans Tias
 
You know, Roland-V. I really like how your project is coming out (regardless of MSD ;)). All is so neat. And planking - just perfect. Are you planning to do the rigging?

Yes! The plan is to do so...nothing set in stone, but for now I think it's really cool to do
 
Hello Ronald,

Your hull looks great, as do the other photos you've shown your craftsmanship is wonderful to see.

I saw the Vanguard Models manuals on the website.
They recommend a water-based wood filler from a brand that isn't available in hardware stores here (Ronseal).
This can easily be ordered online, but I have no experience with it.

My question is:

Which wood filler did you use for your first planking?
Did you use a wood filler on the second planking?
And if so, does it match the wood color supplied in the kit?

Regards

Hans Tias

I just took a wood filler of the shelf that I had lying around. I think it's a local brand called "Albastine". Nothing magical about it, the only thing what's important I think that it is not to grainy/coarse. A "wood repair" filler will be fine.

No wood filler on the second planking. Just bought enough extra material so if it wasn't right, just start over ;)

Thank you all for the generous compliments and likes! I really appreciate it :)
 
I use a mix of CA and wood glue. When I glued a plank on the hull, at several points I put a little dot of CA and in between covered it with wood glue. Like this
Hi Ronald,
First and foremost, your hull planking is one of the very best ever posted here. This photo should be used as a "This is how planking should be done" example

Regarding the mix of CA and PCA as, why do you do this? If the plank is pre shaped as yours have been done the PVA will hold the plank in place in 30-60 seconds which gives some maneuvering or do-over time if it is not a good fit.
Tx
Allan
 
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Because I needed multiple widths for the boarding of the top layer.
This is key and great that you brought this up. A number of the planks widen at the post as you show and most narrow at the stem which is usually missed. Kudos to Vanguard for supplying the various sized plank materials and the great quality wood compared to the inappropriate wood we see from a number of the other kit manufacturers.

Allan
 
Hi Ronald,
First and foremost, your hull planking is one of the very best ever posted here. This photo should be used as a "This is how planking should be done" example

Regarding the mix of CA and PCA as, why do you do this? If the plank is pre shaped as yours have been done the PVA will hold the plank in place in 30-60 seconds which gives some maneuvering or do-over time if it is not a good fit.
Tx
Allan
Thank you!

You're right, the PVA glue hardens very quickly, and yes, I pre-shaped the planks well. But sometimes a little bit of force is needed to hold the board in place. It does feel handy to me. The PVA glue takes just a little longer to harden than the super glue, so maybe that's why it goes a bit faster. Either way works fine :D
 
This is key and great that you brought this up. A number of the planks widen at the post as you show and most narrow at the stem which is usually missed. Kudos to Vanguard for supplying the various sized plank materials and the great quality wood compared to the inappropriate wood we see from a number of the other kit manufacturers.

Allan
I bought the different widths separately, (post #25); Vanguard supplies a standard size (4mm from memory). So if you indeed do it this way, like I did, you will have to buy some extra material, which doesn't have to be expensive at all. :)
 
...also, Roland-V, did you find the SoS atmosphere somehow different from MSD? As being a bit more relaxed. No formalities or less obligations?
To be honest...not feeling much difference, but I never had any problems at MSW. :)
 
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