Planset review THE 74-GUN SHIP" (31 + 11 plans) in scale 1:48 (or 1:72) by Jean Boudriot and Timbering plans by JC Lemineur

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Planset Review:
"THE 74-GUN SHIP"

(31 + 11 plans) in scale 1:48 (or 1:72)

31 plans by Jean Boudriot
and 11 Timbering plans by JC Lemineur

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The drawing set is available in scale 1:72 or in scale 1:48 - my set (showing here) is in scale 1:48

complete Drawing set or only the newer timbering set alone is available directly from ancre via
https://ancre.fr/en/basic-books/73-plans-de-la-charpente-du-v74-canons.html

There are different languages available, original written in french, but you can get the monographie also in english or italian language.
With the order you have to decide, which language you prefer.

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SYNOPSIS:

In 1973, Jean-Boudriot published the first volume of a work dedicated to the 74-gun vessel, completed in the following years by three more volumes, the complete set providing, for the first time, an exhaustive and detailed description of all the elements making up a warship during the pre-revolutionary days.

The publication of this work resulted in the construction of reduced-scale models, an endeavour that was made difficult because of the lack of plans specifically dedicated to the timber structure, and in particular those showing the hull frames profile.

In order to respond to this demand, ANCRE Publications felt they had to fill this void
The drafting of the plans was entrusted to Jean-Claude Lemineur who is well known for his study of the French naval architecture and construction under LOUIS XIV.
His interest in this subject dates back to the 1970's when he met with Jean Boudriot. The latter encouraged him to dedicate himself to his work and gave him his support.

The lessons he learned from the 74-gun ship were put into practice in 1983, when the monograph of BOULLONGNE was published. It was the first that showed all the plans necessary to build a model's timber structure. Its construction by the modelist from the Belgian city of Liege, Arthur Molle was complex. Jean-Claude Lemineur contributed to this effort by providing his technical knowledge. He himself became the author of two monographs : a fifth rate of 1683 and a light frigate of 1697

It is therefore quite naturally for his real competence, that he was entrusted with the drafting of the timbering plans of Boudriot's 74-gun ship.

It required no less than eleven 31x91 cm plates for its representation, that includes the complete and detailed draft of all timbers making up the stem and the stern as well as the profile of all the hull's frames. The set of these plates is accompanied by a 24-page booklet that briefly recalls the story of the evolution of the 74-gun ship from its origins in 1664 to its mandated adoption in 1782 based on Sané's plans, and ends with a set of nine photographs illustrating the construction of the timber structure.

Wishing to maintain the universal nature of his ship, Boudriot did not personalize it by giving it the name of a contemporaneous vessel.

Some modelers have regretted this decision, the personalization of their model providing an additional historical dimension and getting away from a certain banal nature. They will find in this brochure some information on the possibilities, in reality rather rare, of making their model represent a 74 that made itself famous during these war years. Two possibilities of substitution of decoration are offered: the 1782 CENTAURE and the 1785 SUPERBE.

The rest is dedicated to the timber structure with commentaries about the plates.

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CONTENTS
(31 plans + 11 plans + Booklet)


Part 1:
31 plans made by Jean Boudriot


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01/02/03 Nomenclature
04 The hold viewed from above
05 Orlop Deck
06 Gundeck
07 Upper Deck
08 Quarter Deck and Forecastle
09 Disposition of Frame
10 Profile of inboard works
11 Details of the Head
12 Details of the Stern
13 Transverse sections forward
14 Transverse sections aft
15 Outboard Profile
16 Views of the bow and the stern
17 Profile of inboard works
18 Sections
19 Arrangement of the Gundeck
20 Arrangement of the Upper deck
21 Arrangement of the forecastle, quarterdeck and poop
22 The ship´s anchors
23 The ship´s guns
24 The ship´s boats
25 The ship´s masts
26 The ship´s yards
27 Mast-fittings
28 Mainmast
29 Foremast and mizen-mast
30 Foremast fittings and mizzen-mast fittings
31 Bowsprit and jibboom standing rigging

Part 2:
and in addition 11 "Timbering plans" made by Jean Claude Lemineur


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C1 Schematic elevation
C2 Plan view of waterlines and construction ribbands
C3 Sectional view of frames, drafts of rider frames
C4 Drafts if stern timbers (I)
C5 Drafts of stern timbers (II)
C6 Drafts of breakhead frames ahead of frame 16
C7 Drafts of forward frames from the front face of frame 15 to the fore station frame
C8 Drafts of frames from the aft face of the aft station frame to frame 15
C9 Drafts of frames from the aft face of frame 16 to after cant frame 30
C10 Draftss of stern timbers
C11 A proposal for switching the decorations of the Centaure and the Superbe

Part 3:
small Booklet explaining the timbering set etc.


LOOK INSIDE (Part 1)

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to be continued in the following post ........
 

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Part II of
Planset Review:
"THE 74-GUN SHIP"

(31 + 11 plans) in scale 1:48 (or 1:72)

31 plans by Jean Boudriot
and 11 Timbering plans by JC Lemineur


LOOK INSIDE (Part 2)

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LOOK INSIDE (Part 3 - booklet)

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Many Thanks for your interest

The complete Review of the Book Set in 4 Volumes of the 74-Gun Ship you can find also here on SOS in the area "Books and References"

https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/forums/books-and-reference.4/
 

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In the meantime the Book reviews of all four Volumes of

THE 74-Gun SHIP / THE SEVENTY-FOUR GUN SHIP
A Practical Treatise on the Art of Naval Architecture

by Jean Boudriot

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Content:


plus the related planset Review in scale 1:48

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is now finished.

For everybody who is interested in this masterpiece of documentation and cornerstone of most of the ancre (and Gerard Delacroix) publications, please take a look:
(please click on the title to get redirected to the different Reviews with "Look Inside":

THE 74-GUN SHIP - Volume 1 - HULL CONSTRUCTION

THE 74-GUN SHIP - Volume 2 - FITTING OUT THE HULL

THE 74-GUN SHIP - Volume 3 - MASTS - SAILS - RIGGING

THE 74-GUN SHIP - Volume 4 - MANNING / SHIPHANDLING

Planset THE 74-GUN SHIP in scale 1:48 (or 1:72)


I can really highly recommend this set of Volumes!!

https://ancre.fr/en/

Here the link to a post of my visit in Rocheford, where I had the chance to see the amazing 74-Gun ship / Vaisseau de 74 canons model built in scale 1:56 by Tiziano Mainardi.

https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/...-th-21-st-october-2018.2050/page-6#post-43361


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Hola buenas alguien me puede ayudar, mirar esto no entiendo una cuaderna de popa la 18 mirar las medidas que de la quilla a la sobre quilla y luego la medida de la cuaderna, no puede serIMG_20211101_180602.jpgIMG_20211101_180616.jpg
 
las copias están mal, esta claro que no es una monografia, pero no deben vender unos planos sin terminar, a parte de que tienen muchos fallos, no me voy a adentrar más en estos planos, pero ancre debería de revisar lo que vende, es solo mi opinión, espero no ofender a nadie, me refiero a los 11planos del señor lemineur, venga un saludo
 
Tuve una pequeña conversación con el señor lemineur y según el esta todo perfecto, bueno no es solo mi opinión en otro foro de Francia coinciden con mi opinión sobre estos planos, no es aconsejable comprar estos 11 planos del señor lemineur por que están para redibujar todas las cuadernas desde la maestra hacia popa todas, luego tampoco tienen dibujados sus encastre y la popa parte de ella también está para redibujar y no hablemos del codaste, bien bajo mi punto de vista estos 11 planos no valen nada de hecho ancre debería retirarlos porque los modelistas van a tener muchos problemas, bien es mi opinión, creo que habrán personas que no esté de acuerdo con migo, y siento si se ofende alguien, pero una cosa está clara la gente de este foro tiene que saber que estos planos no son nada fiables, y si no me equivoco los planos de l, Hermione también tienen muchos problemas, casualidad son del señor lemineur
 
Hola buenos días a todos, solo quería comentaros que el señor Lemineur con respecto a los planos mal dibujados de la vaisseau de 74 cañones se puso en contacto con migo por email y me comentó después de la última conversación que mne iba a mandar los planos a mi casa por correos ya rectificados, de eso hace 10 días, cuando los reciba ya los revisaré y lo comentaré en el foro, un saludo

Hello, good morning everyone, I just wanted to tell you that Mr. Lemineur, regarding the badly drawn plans of the 74-gun vessel, contacted me by email and told me after the last conversation that I was going to send the plans to my house by emails already rectified, that was 10 days ago, when I receive them I will review them and comment on the forum, greetings
 
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Hola buenos días a todos, solo quería comentaros que el señor Lemineur con respecto a los planos mal dibujados de la vaisseau de 74 cañones se puso en contacto con migo por email y me comentó después de la última conversación que mne iba a mandar los planos a mi casa por correos ya rectificados, de eso hace 10 días, cuando los reciba ya los revisaré y lo comentaré en el foro, un saludo

Hello, good morning everyone, I just wanted to tell you that Mr. Lemineur, regarding the badly drawn plans of the 74-gun vessel, contacted me by email and told me after the last conversation that I was going to send the plans to my house by emails already rectified, that was 10 days ago, when I receive them I will review them and comment on the forum, greetings
These are very good news.
Maybe it would be good to clarify with Lemineur and Berti, that we can show here the adjustments made.......
 
El señor Lemineur fue muy atento, eso si los planos son de medias cuadernas pero no hay problema

Mr. Lemineur was very attentive, that is if the plans are of half frames but there is no problem
 
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Si que es verdad que faltan redibujar los encastres pero bien no hay problema

Yes, it is true that the inserts need to be redrawed, but no problem.
 
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