Bluenose Great Banks fishing /racing schooner anchor chain locker location

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Hello, that's my first post, and I would like to get straight to the point. Does anyone know where the starboard anchor chain hawse to the below-the-decks chain locker was located?
There are are more views of the model at www.aid,edu.pl/BN/index.php
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Welcome aboard mate! Sorry, I can't answer your question.

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Thank You Vince. I've been trying to find an answer for a long time before I dropped into S'oS.
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A warm welcome here on board also from my side.
I am not a specialist of the Bluenose or schooners at all, I only know that they have, if they have chain and not rope anchors, as so called chain box on deck.
I found a photo on the Nova Scottia page which is showing this box very good


The windlass was only used for lifting the anchor, but not for falling.....
 

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Thank you Uwek,
Good pictures indeed!
The anchor chain box is useful but it cannot contain the whole chain which is about 600m or 200 fathoms long.
Plans of another Banks schooners show that there were two chain lockers below the decks for port and starboard anchor respectively. Is it possible that aboard Bluenose there was only one chain and the other anchor was dropped with a line (rope)?


A warm welcome here on board also from my side.
I am not a specialist of the Bluenose or schooners at all, I only know that they have, if they have chain and not rope anchors, as so called chain box on deck.
I found a photo on the Nova Scottia page which is showing this box very good


The windlass was only used for lifting the anchor, but not for falling.....
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Thank you Winston,
My question is whether there was one or two anchor chains aboard Bluenose.
If two, the starbord chain must have had separate locker below the decks. Photos don't show that, but photos are always a fragment of reality. In my model both anchors are having their chains, and it was possible that the single main chain was connected to one anchor or another depending on maneuvres. Anyway both anchors had a chain of some length to be conected to the main chain eventually. Am I right in my logic or is it pure fantasy?

I'll pull my plans out when I get home to confirm it, but off the top of my head I would concur with Uwek. The chain storage for the Bluenose is a chain box on the deck.
 

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To my understanding the Bluenose (like most grand banks schooners) only had the single chain box on deck as they only used one working anchor. Some are said to have below deck storage, but I am not familiar with any personally. The spare anchor was usually stored securely on deck on the starboard side of the foremast.
 

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Dear Winston,
Thank You very much.
Does it mean that as the schooner was at fishing grouds there were only 2 anchors? One carried on the port side rail and another one-- sometimes called "fishing anchor" of the type of "admiralty anchor " stored as you mentioned on deck? Original plans show two types of anchor: one with fixed wooden arms, and one of classic admiralty type with foldable iron arm. Most modellers place the first type on both sides.
I uderstand that plans are design and show only possibilities, not what actually was used at differemt times and circumstances.
I'd like to tell the story of the fishing schooner more than a racing legend, avoiding cheap tricks like the deck littered with barrels tubs and fish.
 
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