CA for metal

[cuttyjimr]

Has anyone had experience with using CA for metal parts?
Trying to build mast rings for Billlings Cutty Sark. The ones in the kit are plywood and so thick the belaying pins won't protrude. I am trying to get results close to those shown in the Longridge photos in his volume 2 on the Cutty.
I am using annealed brass trimmed down to about 1/8 inch wide. The rings are premade Amati and Artesenia Latina. My soldering skills are very poor so I am looking to use CA.
Any help greatly appreciated,
Jim

 

[pebbleworm]

The old joke- "How do I get to Carnegie Hall?" "Practice, practice, practice..." Soldering can be learned. Make sure the brass is surgically clean, use the right flux and make sure the metal is HOT before you apply the solder. Hope this did not come across as too cranky...

 

[AllanKP69]

You can buy small sheets of aircraft plywood that are down to 1/64" (0.4mm) thick which is the equivalent of 1 1/8" thick at 1:75.
Allan

 

[Bob Cleek]

The old joke- "How do I get to Carnegie Hall?" "Practice, practice, practice..." Soldering can be learned. Make sure the brass is surgically clean, use the right flux and make sure the metal is HOT before you apply the solder. Hope this did not come across as too cranky...

What pebbleworm said. You're going to have to deal with it someday. CA isn't all it's cracked up to be. Epoxy would be a better adhesive for metal, but there's no substitute for soldering. Do some research online. Watch YouTube videos that show how to "silver solder" and how to solder for jewelry making. Follow the instructions. I use an oxy-propane torch which will also burn oxy-acetylene or oxy-mapp gas. (See: https://www.ebay.com/itm/355907622171?chn=ps&_trkparms=ispr=1&amdata=enc:19rPvNPmLSamw0Kt7xqyz1Q45&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-213727-13078-0&mkcid=2&itemid=355907622171&targetid=4580909052765417&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=603247545&mkgroupid=1236951576251627&rlsatarget=pla-4580909052765417&abcId=9316119&merchantid=51291&msclkid=86e0fcf0230f1e6423f29bce8851d552 or https://www.temu.com/tunqi-mini-soldering--kit--jewelry-welding-crafting-tool-with-5--tips-ideal-for-diy-projects-repairs-g-601099682022025.html?_oak_mp_inf=EImFluim1ogBGgpmb2diZGtxbG5oIJeb1ea0Mg==&top_gallery_url=https://img.kwcdn.com/product/fancy/890cbb21-b878-4c65-a0d0-ad3bfd7b0e37.jpg&spec_gallery_id=2476190721&refer_page_sn=15498&refer_source=0&freesia_scene=689&_oak_freesia_scene=689&_oak_rec_ext_1=MTcyMw&_oak_gallery_order=565155626,924067210,1006954240,1217169437,2086465598&refer_page_el_sn=223143&_x_vst_scene=adg&_x_ads_channel=bing&_x_ads_sub_channel=search&_x_ads_account=176820610&_x_ads_set=521419749&_x_ads_id=1322714887388393&_x_ads_creative_id=82669909807107&_x_ns_source=o&_x_ns_msclkid=eea7268179701ca0752e41bfd4286487&_x_ns_match_type=e&_x_ns_bid_match_type=be&_x_ns_query=Small Torch&_x_ns_keyword=small torches&_x_ns_device=c&_x_ns_targetid=kwd-82670828800874:loc-190&_x_ns_extensionid=&refer_page_name=kuiper&refer_page_id=15498_1732160868743_0wpx6g20rd&_x_sessn_id=nlpvf1bw38 NOTE: Both these models are Chinese counterfeis, but they will performs acceptably once you find and fix the leaks in the hoses! The real deal, the Gentec Small Torch is here: https://www.amazon.com/Kit-prop-Disp-Tanks-kstp14-tsp/dp/B0058EDA14/ref=sr_1_19?adgrpid=1343603779318028&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.6O-_G9uHX4KTzL3_w5-g1e27un8JZNEmHTzEUFzBIxZePIybyYpNCClnJfzQdfB24GyBTZ3VC7zetb5WDZjlP72_t34ACExVpEF8MdLVjIZi27HDimRYSQJm1YycsawbC6Y-JPt_fmQY2xbjc9qzEg7B21WS10DaVcv55ZS356S-TOHQyF3obgJdB0zR1tq0qU-6SQ5xwqaWIJqFo2EVVRuYG5ne6JBlVzqqYE1D36HsAZXPeLOHQKe83kBWsTSqpxFl6FnAQ1iF_0XzVSfnxdTsqS2DFoYz9bfnZCXF6_E.i9828dCcNRYZG-iSsKUSDtec5raDXg_JUjnYLEIuA9w&dib_tag=se&hvadid=83975308087679&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=88716&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvtargid=kwd-83975591916478:loc-190&hydadcr=11957_10267328&keywords=gentec+small+torch&qid=1732161081&sr=8-19



If you get a "Small Torch" like the above, be sure to buy the regulators for your gas bottles at the same time. They're expensive, but essential to make the torch work.

There are other jeweler's torches on the market and you'd do well to check the jewelers' supply houses for a wide selection. I would not encourage anybody to get a regular electric soldering iron or gun. They will melt solder, but they don't concentrate enough heat in a small enough area to do the job for modeling tasks. A torch is what you want. Some butane torches will suffice, although most don't offer the feature of being able to shape the flame as one might desire.

I'd also encourage anybody who's contemplating any modeling soldering to invest in a Quadhands magnetic soldering stand. See: https://www.quadhands.com/collections/all Here again, there are now a million Chinese counterfeits of this tool, but the original Quadhands line is of a much higher quality that the knock-offs, as is usually the case. (The alligator clips are of much higher quality, for one thing.) This gizmo makes soldering (and gluing, rigging, and a lot more) a much less frustrating exercise and they don't cost that much.





Finally, I highly recommend this book on the subject miniature modeling with brass and copper: https://www.amazon.com/Model-Building-Brass-Kenneth-Foran/dp/0764340042

Model Building with Brass​

by Kenneth C. Foran (Author)



Working with brass and copper is essential if one wishes to progress to scratch-building or even kit-bashing. What the masters can do building with metal is quite intimidating, but few of us will ever go that far. Working brass and copper is not difficult with some good instruction and a few hours of practice. It's not expensive to acquire the basic tools and it will elevate your modeling to a much higher level.

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