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Caldercraft Victory

Stuart Little

Stuart Little

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Ahoy Fellow Shipmates, building Caldercraft's Victory. I have been studying the Hull Construction manual prior to starting the build, apart from preparing the false keel & bulkheads ready for assembly. I'm referring to page 4, photo 001:- The instructions say;"Remove a small section of the uppermost dummy barrel strip between bulkheads 9 & 10, to allow positioning of the entry port." The photo is not very clear in showing how much to remove. Would one of you guys, please give me a bit more detail as to how much.

Stuart
 
Stuart Little said:
Ahoy Fellow Shipmates, building Caldercraft's Victory. I have been studying the Hull Construction manual prior to starting the build, apart from preparing the false keel & bulkheads ready for assembly. I'm referring to page 4, photo 001:- The instructions say;"Remove a small section of the uppermost dummy barrel strip between bulkheads 9 & 10, to allow positioning of the entry port." The photo is not very clear in showing how much to remove. Would one of you guys, please give me a bit more detail as to how much.

Stuart
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Hallo Stuart,
I never build the Victory, but after some research I would say so:

Finally you have this entry port on both sides of the hull, an opening where you can look inside (somehow)

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You have ro remove all false bulkheads inside which would not visible on the real ship

as I can recognize there is a false logintudinal bulkhead (red arrow) between all bulkhead frames (called uppermost dummy barrel strip) , maybe for taking over the false guns of the lower gundecks.
Where the green arro is, there is this backwall completely missing (also because there is no gun muzzle to be installed)......
If there is no problem with stability reasons, I would remove the complete dummy barrel strip between bulkheads #9 and #10 - like shown in the photo

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Danke shoenn Uwe, that's how I looked at it, you can see what I meant as 'not very clear'. Considering it's an English kit, one would expect a better phrased instruction.
There's English & there's "English"!

Stuart
 
Stuart Little said:
Ahoy Fellow Shipmates, building Caldercraft's Victory. I have been studying the Hull Construction manual prior to starting the build, apart from preparing the false keel & bulkheads ready for assembly. I'm referring to page 4, photo 001:- The instructions say;"Remove a small section of the uppermost dummy barrel strip between bulkheads 9 & 10, to allow positioning of the entry port." The photo is not very clear in showing how much to remove. Would one of you guys, please give me a bit more detail as to how much.

Stuart
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Hallo @Stuart Little
we wish you all the BEST and a HAPPY BIRTHDAY
Birthday-Cake
Enjoy your special day
 
Stuart Little said:
Thank you Shipmates, I'll make it as best I can, I'm 'snuffling' my way with a virus, & find it difficult to blow out 79 candles!!!!!!!!!! :(

Stuart (demoted to Midshipman uneasy)
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Here between friends we will try to help, especially with the 79 candles

Try once more:

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Stuart Little said:
Ahoy Fellow Shipmates, building Caldercraft's Victory. I have been studying the Hull Construction manual prior to starting the build, apart from preparing the false keel & bulkheads ready for assembly. I'm referring to page 4, photo 001:- The instructions say;"Remove a small section of the uppermost dummy barrel strip between bulkheads 9 & 10, to allow positioning of the entry port." The photo is not very clear in showing how much to remove. Would one of you guys, please give me a bit more detail as to how much.

Stuart
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I have now laid the keel of my Caldercraft Victory, having at last completed 'Le Superbe' under sail. I have a set of sails on the way for Victory, from Aliexpress by ZHN. It'll be interesting seeing how good they are @ £43.
I will say that I disagree with those who say that if sails be fitted, they hide detail/rigging, but not if the course sails are part-furled & the others 'set'. Fitting sails means more rigging is added IMHO.
 
IF you are not happy with the sails you receive, have you considered making your own with silk span? They are far more realistic as it is impossible to make realistic sewn sails at our most common scales.
Allan
 
I'm building the 'Trafalgar Version' of Victory, but I'm not in full agreement with Jotika on the colours of the inboard bulwarks & gun carriages, being yellow. My mind keeps telling me that at that time they would have been red ochre. Do any of you shipmates have opinions on this? Another case of personal choice, maybe?
Stuart
 
Stuart Little said:
I'm building the 'Trafalgar Version' of Victory, but I'm not in full agreement with Jotika on the colours of the inboard bulwarks & gun carriages, being yellow. My mind keeps telling me that at that time they would have been red ochre. Do any of you shipmates have opinions on this? Another case of personal choice, maybe?
Stuart
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Isn't she in her Trafalgar state in Portsmouth?
 
There's been so many restorations & changes over the decades, that I believe 'the jury's still out' as to what were the actual colours. There are, apparently, still some dispute over the present 'terracotta' shade of yellow.
 
Stuart Little said:
There's been so many restorations & changes over the decades, that I believe 'the jury's still out' as to what were the actual colours. There are, apparently, still some dispute over the present 'terracotta' shade of yellow.
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Yes, I would imagine the exact hue would be impossible to match. Even if they recorded the pigment used, it would have been a name and not a pigment number. So depending on where the pigment originated would effect the actual hue. All yellow ochre's are not the same.
Even a modern pigment with an international pigment number designation can have a slightly different hue depending on where and by who manufactured it.
The best we can do is do the research and make an educated guess.
Not sure that helps.
 
Not to mention the effects of sun and sea water wearing on things for decades to change the shade up from what "Original" shade was.

When was the transom balconies removed, before or after Trafalgar battle?
 
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