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Hi friends of the ships of the 17. Century
In October Waldemar posted "Hampton Court 1678 - perfectly generic design". It was my plan of the Witon house Model he used.
A lot of Years ago I talk about the model and the plan of it and the problems with the name Hampton Court with John Franklin.
After our talking John Franklin send me a copy of the original Wilton House Plan.
The opinion of some Experts was the Model could be a draft for the ships Lenox, Hampton Court and Stirling Castle. But if we compare
some details so we will see that there are some mistakes, the not fit to the time of the 70 gun ships of the 1677 establishment.
There was the letters of William the III. and Mary on the model and only William III. on the plan. Also the quarter gallery show
us a little later time and on the uper deck below the fore castle was only two gunports. Hampton Court, Lenox and
Stirling Castle show thre gun ports, like all other 70 gun ships of this time. So I am thinking like John Franklin do, the ship was made
around 1690 as present of the Earl of Pembroke. It could be possible that John Shish used the original plan for his thre ships and make
a modification what fit to 1690. It could be that the old plan he used for the model was named Hampton Court.
But I dont like to talk about the problems because it makes more sense to show a plan of the Hampton Court, I made 1985 after the
Van de Velde drawings of that ship. You can compare my drawings with them of Van de Velde and then you will find the difference
to the Wilton House model.
Regards
Willi Meischl (schifferlbauer)
it too with the Plan of the
Wilton House model
In October Waldemar posted "Hampton Court 1678 - perfectly generic design". It was my plan of the Witon house Model he used.
A lot of Years ago I talk about the model and the plan of it and the problems with the name Hampton Court with John Franklin.
After our talking John Franklin send me a copy of the original Wilton House Plan.
The opinion of some Experts was the Model could be a draft for the ships Lenox, Hampton Court and Stirling Castle. But if we compare
some details so we will see that there are some mistakes, the not fit to the time of the 70 gun ships of the 1677 establishment.
There was the letters of William the III. and Mary on the model and only William III. on the plan. Also the quarter gallery show
us a little later time and on the uper deck below the fore castle was only two gunports. Hampton Court, Lenox and
Stirling Castle show thre gun ports, like all other 70 gun ships of this time. So I am thinking like John Franklin do, the ship was made
around 1690 as present of the Earl of Pembroke. It could be possible that John Shish used the original plan for his thre ships and make
a modification what fit to 1690. It could be that the old plan he used for the model was named Hampton Court.
But I dont like to talk about the problems because it makes more sense to show a plan of the Hampton Court, I made 1985 after the
Van de Velde drawings of that ship. You can compare my drawings with them of Van de Velde and then you will find the difference
to the Wilton House model.
Regards
Willi Meischl (schifferlbauer)
it too with the Plan of the
Wilton House model