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Maybe:
A quick question: is this a scratch-built model, or is it from a kit?
It’s looking really great so far. I was just curious—was there a particular reason you decided to start on the upper structure before completing the hull?
Sorry for the questions; in the end, every modeler has their own rhythm and methods when building a ship.
Thanks for sharing the photo with us—excellent work so far, and please keep us posted on your progress!
 
Bluebeard said:
Maybe:
A quick question: is this a scratch-built model, or is it from a kit?
It’s looking really great so far. I was just curious—was there a particular reason you decided to start on the upper structure before completing the hull?
Sorry for the questions; in the end, every modeler has their own rhythm and methods when building a ship.
Thanks for sharing the photo with us—excellent work so far, and please keep us posted on your progress!
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This is a kit https://www.modelexpo-online.com/products/mantua-753-trotamares-1-43-scale. None of the topside pieces are attached, just,there for the pic.
the fore and aft decks need to be planked so you can shape them for the hull planking to go up against https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25073-trotamares-by-rab999-mantua-scale-143/. I have no problem with the building my only concern is the hull is the stern walnut finish planking.
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MayBe said:
This is a pic of how I think they want me to put the planking on the stern of the hull. It is a double planked Hull. In looking at god knows how many videos
I have not found one like this. Looking for some advice.
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I may be wrong but I am sure no vessel was ever planked the way they show it. Planks do not come to a point. The hull needs to be lined off so you know the taper of the breadth of each plank, then once tapered it they need to be shaped by spiling or wet/hot edge bending. If the hull is double planked, this is not that important for the first layer, but it offers good practice doing it correctly before doing the second layer.

An example is below, a kit method on the left, a contemporary model on the right. For edge bending there are many posts on doing this here at SoS.

Allan


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AllanKP69 said:
Hi Maybe
Late welcome to SoS. I love the recliner deck chairs!!
Allan
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Thankyou for the reply I understand the bow of the boat planking. If you look at my posting on wednesday ther is a pic of the transom planking.
How do I get that right and the bow at the same time?
 
MayBe said:
How do I get that right and the bow at the same time?
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Does the stern framing look like this? Is there the equivalent to a stern post to be added?

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It looks like it has a transom or style of counter or taffrail which could have horizontal planking or vertical planking. For the rest it would be like on the older ships but you need to line off fhe hull to know the breadth of the planks from bow to stern. They are often wider at the stern than midships or sometimes stealers are added to compensate and often narrower at the bow than the midships depending on the shape.

The below is typical on some ships so might be similar to what yours would look like. The cover rail below the counter in the photo below was common back in the day, but might not be applicable to your trotamare. In the end if your hull will be painted, it will cover a lot of things. :)

Allan
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AllanKP69 said:
Does the stern framing look like this? Is there the equivalent to a stern post to be added?

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It looks like it has a transom or style of counter or taffrail which would probably have horizontal planking. For the rest it would be like on the older ships but you need to line off fhe hull to know the breadth of the planks from bow to stern. They are often wider at the stern than midships or sometimes stealers are added to compensate and typically narrower at the bow than the midships.

The below is typical on some ships so might be similar to what yours would look like. The cover rail below the counter in the photo below was common back in the day, but might not be applicable to your trotamare. In the end if your hull will be painted, it will cover a lot of things. :)

Allan
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Thanks. I will start to lay it out and see what we have
 
I just edited the post so maybe a little different information. Check it out. I studied photos of another build of this kit and I agree with you the planking described in the kit is a very bad joke, but that is the norm for Mantua, AL, OcCre and a few others when it comes to planking.
Allan
 
AllanKP69 said:
I just edited the post so maybe a little different information. Check it out. I studied photos of another build of this kit and I agree with you the planking described in the kit is a very bad joke, but that is the norm for Mantua, AL, OcCre and a few others when it comes to planking.
Allan
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I thought the spear tip planks were wrong and the pic you sent looks like what I'm striving for.
Thanks again Ken
 
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