HMS GRANADO (1742) - midship section - POF by CAF in 1:48 - by Uwe

[Uwek]

Some days ago I started working on a new project -

HMS GRANADO - bomb vessel
midship section - POF
by @CAFmodel in 1:48

I made already a detailed kit review, where you can find more detailed Information abou the content and also the specialities of this kit, like the correct framing, the new kind of jig, using boxwood for the complete structure etc. -> so in my opinion a very special kit

Kit review - HMS GRANADO (1742) - section - kit No.2 - POF in scale 1:48 by CAF model

Kit Review: PART 1 HMS GRANADO (1742) section - kit No.2 Plank On Frame in scale 1:48 by CAF model since several months we were able to follow the development of this amazing kit in one of our topics https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/threads/caf-granado-1-48.5628/ -> so we all want now to see...

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In the following only some photos of the finished CAF model so you get an impression what you can expect.

I have chosen this project, because I plan to finish it until end of this winter, so I am able to take it with me to the planned modelers come together in Augsburg, Germany in March 2022. Let us see, if this will work

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The kit was offered directly via CAF-web-page

HMS Granado No.2

1:48

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The size of the CAF model in scale 1:48 when finished completely

In order to complete the available topics related to Granado and the kit(s) in SOS:

Book review - Book Review: "The Bomb Vessel GRANADO (Anatomy of the Ship)" by Peter Goodwin

Book Review: The Bomb Vessel GRANADO (Anatomy of the Ship) by Peter Goodwin Hardcover: 128 pages Publisher: Conway Maritime Press; New edition edition (21 April 2005) Language: English Product Dimensions: 26 x 1.9 x 24.1 cm Synopsis: Built as a floating siege engine able to...

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Caf Model - New Kit - CAF Granado 1/48 - cross section

https://cafmodel.com/products/hms-granado Coming soon Le coreur is done and we're starting a new project Our mortar ship La salamandre is temporarily unavailable for sale due to copyright issues, so we are ready to start a new mortar ship. I started to design this kit in 2013, but his ribs were...

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Kit review - HMS GRANADO (1742) - POF in scale 1:48 by CAF model

Kit Review: PART 1 HMS GRANADO (1742) complete full hull model Plank On Frame in scale 1:48 by CAF model Beginning with this year we were already able to see the highly interesting kit of the Granado section model...

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https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/threads/3d-of-hms-granado-no2.6578/

so stay tuned - in short time I will show you the first working steps in my detailed building log

 

[Tobias]

Hello Uwe, I'm very excited.

 

[Dematosdg]

Fantastic... will follow your built !!!

Daniel

 

[Kurt Konrath]

I will sitting close up front, as I have this kit on the shelf, waiting for high tide to bring to the desk when time is right.

 

[Bryian]

CAF models certainly manufacture high quality kits.

 

[Uwek]

Ha Ha - I am also excited - and I can tell you already that building this model brings a lot of fun - with fast success and visible progress in short time
The big advantage of section models - only some frames and you have already your hull finished ...... but step by step

First of all for all your information.... I made today a topic in the ship history area showing in more detail the vessel HMS Granado 1742 and also contemporary resources, data, drawings, models etc........

HMS GRANADO - bomb vessel - 1742

Based on the big interest, which was produced by the new model kits devloped by CAF I decided to make a new topic, showing the basic data and contemporary and new sources existing HMS GRANADO (1742) - bomb vessel - interesting is maybe also the fact, that the Constructor John Barnard...

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[Uwek]

Before I start to show the "real" work on the model, just some additional information.

CAF produced with this kit (according to my knowledge of the market) the first time a POF- framing like the real ship was made.
with the reduction of the thickness from the floor timber up to the top timbers, and also with the twisting at the top timber near the gunports and / or the oar-ports

Here you can see the frame timber plan made by Goodwin - the red lines enclose the section of the Granado kit


a closer look


and here the test model from CAF showing all the frames of the section


Here a 3D-animation from CAF showing two double frames - red and green are the frame elements with floor timbers, futtocks and top timbers, in grey colour are shown the anchor chocks connecting the elements with bolts




to illustarte also with the help of Goodwins sketch - and the kit is completely following this principle structure

 

[Maarten]

Great new project Uwe. Fantastic to see this detailed framing. Looking forward to your build.

 

[Gennaro]

Looks interesting. I read your kit review, visited CAF's site - no word on wood used. Castello? Or something else?

 

[donfarr]

THIS ONE FOR ME ALSO PROJECT FOR 2022 IS THIS THE ONE WITH THE PLEXIGLASS JIG INTRIGUING. GOD BLESS STAY SAFE ALL DON

 

[Uwek]

Many Thanks to all for the kind words and the likes already received (although I did not show anything of my own work )

IS THIS THE ONE WITH THE PLEXIGLASS JIG INTRIGUING

Hallo Don, Yes, it is the model with the plexiglass jig - you will see it soon

Looks interesting. I read your kit review, visited CAF's site - no word on wood used. Castello? Or something else?

I mentioned it in the kit review already - the used wood, somehow yellow, is very close to boxwood, either in colour (only very small color differences between the sheets) but also in the behaviour. Much harder than pear or cherry, with a very fine grain. So sanding takes more time, but you can work very accurate and you can acchieve very accurate edges - The used "boxwood" wood is one speciality of this kit and makes it also very special - and I am pretty sure also more expensive in the production, also because of the necessary use of much thicker wooden sheets (compared to other kits) caused by the cnc-cutting





Take a look here:

Kit review - HMS GRANADO (1742) - section - kit No.2 - POF in scale 1:48 by CAF model

Kit Review: PART 1 HMS GRANADO (1742) section - kit No.2 Plank On Frame in scale 1:48 by CAF model since several months we were able to follow the development of this amazing kit in one of our topics https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/threads/caf-granado-1-48.5628/ -> so we all want now to see...

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[Uwek]

In the following you can see some two more sketches from CAF which are helping to understand the structure and building of the individual frames

The frames are numbered 6 to 14, so all together 9 double frames. Every double frame consists on a side named "B" (dark blue) and also "A" (light blue)



The "A"-side is every time the direction via the bow of the vessel



For each frame we can find a frame drawing which have to be used for the correct alignment of the frame elements



The manual is starting with frame "6"

The (green) filler elements 1A-1 which has the same form like the top timber (5F-6B-6) are only temporary, in order to get the small step over the height of the frame (here from second futtock to top timber). These filler parts should be fixed with glue to the plans. A hatched area on each frame drawing indicates where they fit.



Here you can see the drawing with all wooden parts of side "B" of frame "6". The correct part numbers are shown in the sketches of the manual, you can find a parts plan in the rear of the manual. The parts number have to be marked with pencil on the wood, you don't want to mix them up.
Short explanation to the numbering:
f.e. 5F-6B-4 (see the photo before)
5F - is the sheets number - here btw 5 indicates the thickness of the wooden sheet 5 milimeter
6B - is for frame "6" side "B"
4 - is the part number of the individual frame side



after finishing and gluing side "B" you should install side "A" on top of the side "B"



Now I came to the point, that I understood completely the way and methods used with the filler elements, the temporary resin inserts (which you will see later)......
but .....
I was not sure which lines to follow on the drawing ????
Red for "B" or is it black for "B" ..... or?

Tomorrow I will show you in detail how I solved it - btw correctly

 

[stan167]

I am working currently on the same kit. It took me some time to figure out which line was up to.

So, red line is for "B" and the upper black line for "A".

 

[Jimsky]

I am working currently on the same kit. It took me some time to figure out which line was up to.

So, red line is for "B" and the upper black line for "A".

Ha...!!! You are working on the same kit, how about you starting the build log? Is it feasible? It will be great for our members, thought.

 

[Uwek]

I am working currently on the same kit. It took me some time to figure out which line was up to.

So, red line is for "B" and the upper black line for "A".

Many Thanks for the information.
I am very happy to read, that you are also working on this interesting kit.
Knowing your great model of the Bonhomme Richard section, I can also full underline the words by Jim -> it would be great to see also your work on the Granado in a building log...... would be great

 

[Uwek]

Many Thanks for the information.
I am very happy to read, that you are also working on this interesting kit.
Knowing your great model of the Bonhomme Richard section, I can also full underline the words by Jim -> it would be great to see also your work on the Granado in a building log...... would be great

Just found your log you started already before I wrote my last post - Many Thanks
For everybody interested, take a look here:

HMS GRANADO (1742) - section - POF by CAF in 1:48 [COMPLETED BUILD]

I planed to start my building log, but at the end I was motivated by the Uwe log to finaly do it :) Lets start my building log of this interesant kit from CAF. I started with the acryl glass jig. There are three set of screws with diferent lenght and no intstruction how to use it. At the...

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[Uwek]

Due to the fact, that it was hard to understand the shown lines on the drawing of frame "6" I decided to check the situation with the frame "14", on the oposite end of the section. Here we have also the biggest difference of the lines due to the biggest fairing of the frames



The drawing of frame "14" is on the second sheet of drawings, the only frame on the sheet, and here we can find also this small skecth with coloured lines and and arrow, which is explaing the order







so the outside of Frame-side "B" has to follow the red line and frame-side A the purple one / the bearding or fairing line markes on the wooden parts



view streight from the top



and the manual is showing the stucture of the "14"





This sketch might also help to understand


But before we are able to fix the frame parts there is one additional preparation work necessary, which can be fastly prepared with a sharpe knife



All frame parts are CNC routed, therefore all internal edges are rounded and have to be squared off. A sharp scalpel will do the job easily - you can see the difference before and after on the next photo.




OK - let us do the first frame
-> a paper-copy of the frame drawing was fixed to a glass-plate and the parts aligned along the lines. Here "B" along the red line




The first frame glued and prepared - and the system was understood







to be continued ......

 

[pianoforte]

Hallo Uwe, you have started something, looks very nice. Is actually quite different from thr Le Coureur. I'm in.

 

[Uwek]

Hallo Uwe, you have started something, looks very nice. Is actually quite different from thr Le Coureur. I'm in.

Yes, it is different, but the framing works of the Granado has also several chellenges like the frames of the Le Coureur - it is highly interesting - a complete different POF feeling

I am not planning to bore you with every single frame in the following posts. But maybe it is interesting to see the works on frame "13" where one of the resin elements were used. Therefore I show you the working steps of this frame with the help of a photo-series.....

The floor timber and on each side the two temporary distancers





all elements prepared - at the top next to the top timbers you can see the resin parts for this frame





side "A" along the black line



The resin element





side "B" on top of side "A" - and the resin distancer







after removing from the plan - the back side of Side "A"







the front side with side "B"

 

[pianoforte]

Yes this is really quite different from Le Coureur, looks quite complicated at first but once you understand the A and B part it's a great thing. The resin part is a real help. You do it as always, clean, accurate, clear, just great.