Maybe Bryian. It started as a fill in while I was recovering from health issues. The health issues kept happening so the computer work was about all I could do. It developed into this. Not a waste of time at least. I hope to get back to the Danmark soon. I have 1 last medical thing (hernia surgery as a result of previous stuff) next week and then I think I will be good.Hi Allan, is this your next project ?
Get well soon, Allan.Maybe Bryian. It started as a fill in while I was recovering from health issues. The health issues kept happening so the computer work was about all I could do. It developed into this. Not a waste of time at least. I hope to get back to the Danmark soon. I have 1 last medical thing (hernia surgery as a result of previous stuff) next week and then I think I will be good.
Wishing you well and a speedy recovery. Investigator project looks fantastic.Maybe Bryian. It started as a fill in while I was recovering from health issues. The health issues kept happening so the computer work was about all I could do. It developed into this. Not a waste of time at least. I hope to get back to the Danmark soon. I have 1 last medical thing (hernia surgery as a result of previous stuff) next week and then I think I will be good.
Marvelous work, excellently researched and draughted!Hi Uwek
Thanks for your comments.
You raise valid points and I have considered these items during the reconstruction.
Here are my reasons for doing so.
The vessel is basically a collier and I have used the dimensions as recorded. As the original ship "Fram" she would have a draught of about 12'4" This would have put the water level about 15" below the wale when fully loaded.
From Flinders journal: Mar. 1801 Thurs.12 Shipwrights coppering the ship a streak higher up.
and [Page 175] [Saturday] - 17th. ship to her anchorage, Ships draught of water Forwd. 13:6 Aft 13:10
This puts the waterline half way up the second streak of copper that Flinders had installed. I have shown the extra streak of copper sheathing on my plans. Hence the 2 horizontal layers. She was heavily laden for the voyage to Australia.
She was originally equipped with 2 x 18lb carronade stern chasers.
As you can see the gunports are positioned to accommodate these.
There are plenty of examples of the stern decoration being pierced to allow this.
See the drawings below.
The latrine could be moved a little but not too much as your head would be hitting the internal timbers.
I also changed the colour of the copper a bit.
Regards Allan
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Good evening, I hope to pleaseThis cross section of the stern area is great and is explaining a lot - great
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Hi JBeiner.Marvelous work, excellently researched and draughted!
I might agree with Uwek's original point about the copper. I can't be sure, since I'm not sure what sources to turn to in this regard, but I have always understood copper sheathing to reach the design waterline of a vessel, not the waterline when stored for a voyage. It doesn't seem to me that copper sheathing done the naval way would have been visible above that actual waterline, but I could be wrong. The find detailing the raising of her copper is excellent (as is, on an unrelated note, Baugean's drawing!), but I would suggest the alternative interpretation that they meant one strake higher, i.e. a plank's-width higher. I'm fairly certain "streak" is a usual spelling of "strake" from that period, but as I can't verify my thoughts I leave them only as alternative viewpoints for you to consider in your build, and you may know more that I don't (in which case, I would love to hear!). I would be very surprised to see the wales being coppered, but I look eagerly forward to hearing your thoughts.
Another thing which you might want to search for are the sort of capping ribbands seen on Trincomalee and in Boudriot's books along the upper edge of the copper, though I am ignorant of any regulations or establishments regarding their use and unsure whether they would end up being appropriate. They are something I have on my list to research for my own build, when the time comes.
Interesting find.Hi Frank.
Thanks for that.
Yes there is documents showing latrines.
Here is another of enterprise.
It shows them enclosed as well.
Regards
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Hallo Allan alias @alpayedHi everyone.
Here is a timeline of HMS Investigator.
I am well on the way with the other drawings.
Disposition of frame here.
Allan