HMS Victory 1759 1:200 scale

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Hello mates, I have embarked on creating this peculiar 1:200 Chinese representation of the HMS Victory, what I will say thus far is that the fits of most parts have been relatively good, however some of the hole sizes... someone mustn't have converted the diameters from PRC correctly as they are way off. My initial idea was to build this ship to float it on my koi pond hence the reason for buying a budget kit. I am wanting to add some ballast to make sure it sits properly in the water and can withstand being blown about without sinking. So I will also be making it watertight, however after starting the build I have realised that it is lacking in some major elements and any rigging plans
 

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This is my first build of a wooden ship, and I have already realised that the process of adding in the masts before shaping the hull is a no no . Luckily I have only tacked them in so I will remove them until the hull is complete. Having found that there is a fair few parts missing for this model, I will be putting together a bunch of files for 3D printing, cannons, decorations, lanterns, lifeboats, anchor chains etc. any other suggestions?
 

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found the hull incredibly difficult to clamp whilst glueing, but I think we're there now, has taken me about a week to get together, and in the words of Joe Biden, "what I've learnt is, I've learnt a lot."
 

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Tonight I have smoothed out the hull, though will carry on refining that. Made some additional details for the prow, not sure on correct name for that piece at the front. Also I have no idea what the width of all the yard arms should be for this model since it does not cover that in the instructions... suggestions welcome!!

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Paul, I think in my copy of the instructions there is measurements for the masts and yards. I'll dig them out and see what I can find.

Should be able to read the measurements, though the rest is in Chinese.

Also, did you see the link in my build log for the detailed drawings of the rigging? If not, I can post that up for you too.

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Paul, I think in my copy of the instructions there is measurements for the masts and yards. I'll dig them out and see what I can find.

Should be able to read the measurements, though the rest is in Chinese.

Also, did you see the link in my build log for the detailed drawings of the rigging? If not, I can post that up for you too.

Brian
Ah that would be brilliant if you could Brian! And no I haven't seen them on your build log, what page is it on? I shall have a peruse.


Cheers

Paul
 
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Ok, here are the measurements as I understand them:

Fore Mast
Fore Main Mast 5 mm x 104 mm
Fore Top Mast 3 mm x 89 mm
Fore Topgallant Mast 2 mm x 84 mm
Fore Main Yard 4mm x 132 mm
Fore Main Yard Stunsls 1.5 mm x 60 mm
Fore Top Yard 3 mm x 112 mm
Fore Top Yard Stunsls 1.5 mm x 42 mm
Fore Topgallant Yard 2 mm x 72 mm

Main Mast
Main Mast 6 mm x 124 mm
Main Top Mast 3 mm x 98 mm
Main Topgallant Mast 2 mm x 89 mm
Main Yard 4 mm x 145 mm
Main Yard Stunsls 1.5 mm x 60 mm
Main Top Yard 3 mm x 120 mm
Main Top Yard Stunsls 1.5 mm x 42 mm
Main Topgallant Yard 2 mm x 75 mm

Mizzen Mast
Mizzen Mast 5 mm x 98 mm
Mizzen Top Mast 3 mm x 78 mm
Mizzen Topgallant Mast 2 mm x 69 mm
Mizzen Main Yard 4 mm x 99 mm
Mizzen Top Yard 3 mm x 95 mm
Mizzen Topgallant Yard 2 mm x 51 mm

I hope this makes sense, it is what I was able to google translate out of the Chinese instructions.


Below is the link to the detailed rigging drawings I was able to find for the Victory, the rigging started about halfway down the list with Drawing 11 Bow Sprit


I have had to use these drawing with a large grain of salt to interpret what would and would not work at this tiny scale, but they have been very helpful since the kit instructions have nothing on rigging.

Good luck and let me know if I can assist in any way.

Brian
 
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Ah brilliant, thanks for that Brian that is a massive help! Did you have to match the Chinese characters or do you know mandarin?

Cheers


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Google translate has an option to use the camera to read the Chinese and convert to English and snap a pic. The measurements were easy enough, mms are mms all over, just needed to interpret the different masts/yards

I didn't find any good measurements on the bow sprit, jib boom and flying jib boom, so I eye balled them based on the drawings I found for the rigging, and I only added one yard to bow sprit on my kit and figured it at about the same length as the fore top yard.

Turned out well, and I didn't add the second yard to the bow, it was already getting pretty crowded on the bow at this scale.

Thanks and good luck on your build

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Hi Paul!

You will never get the model properly waterproofed and it would deteriote too quickly. Even if it was a "cheap model" I would never put it in the water.

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My 13 years old daughter build laser models with features and used them as decorative models.

Best regards
Thomas
Hi Thomas, hm yes I may re-address that idea if its going to take me x amount of man hours to complete, would be a shame for it to disintegrate. I was thinking of using some sort of lacquer.


cool laser cur models too!

Cheers
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Started to paint the hull, one thing I have noticed on varying models of the ship, is that the top black line seems to be above or intersecting the top cannon row, think it should be the latter looking at pictures, so will match that. I'm quite happy with how it is looking so far, need to neaten up the lines in places. Used some standard acrylic model paints and they seem to have come out pretty well. Although I hear the original victory was was more of a pinkish yellow than this ochre colour?


ps I did not intend to match the fireplace with the ship

Cheers

Paul
 

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Today I have changed the top black line to intersect the cannon ports and added a figure head from mantua. also sculpted the decoration on the stern in polymer clay. out of cutiosity, I gave it a quick test in the water just to see how it floats and it certainly has an uneven keel, lists to port.
 

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Cut all the yards and made a boom with yoke, tried to make the yoke several times out of the spare wood from the kit but it disintegrated. hopefully next week my order of blocks and dead eyes will arrive along with some better dremel tools and i will commence the rigging :)
 

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As I am awaiting my new Dremel chuck head and some micro drill bits from Hong Kong no less... This week I have added to the additional bits and pieces for the model in CAD
 

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just eyeballing scale mostly from photos on google. i am not necessarily going for hyper accuracy because the size of these parts will be very small but near enough
 
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