How-to Video Guide for "Lining Off" For Planking?

[GiddyGibberish]

Hi!

Sorry if my terminology is naive here, but I'm trying to learn how to "line off" the bulkheads for planking. In Chuck Passaro's edge bending video the hull is already marked and I've been trying to find a video or guide that tells me how to do that part. Everything I've found seems to be starting after they've done the marking off.

Does anyone know a good beginner video to learn the process? Also... is this a viable method for planking any hull, or does it only apply to specific types of hulls? Is there a specific name for the technique? Maybe that's why I can't find anything... I'm not sure what it's called, lol.

Thanks!

 

[Dave Stevens (Lumberyard)]

we have several build logs on planking a hull as well as lining off a hull
i have to hull planking under my name to start

 

[AllanKP69]

GG

https://cdn.wildapricot.com/278718/resources/Documents/articles/LiningOffYourHullPlankingTutorialAndFan.pdf?version=1579727184000&Policy=eyJTdGF0ZW1lbnQiOiBbeyJSZXNvdXJjZSI6Imh0dHBzOi8vY2RuLndpbGRhcHJpY290LmNvbS8yNzg3MTgvcmVzb3VyY2VzL0RvY3VtZW50cy9hcnRpY2xlcy9MaW5pbmdPZmZZb3VySHVsbFBsYW5raW5nVHV0b3JpYWxBbmRGYW4ucGRmP3ZlcnNpb249MTU3OTcyNzE4NDAwMCIsIkNvbmRpdGlvbiI6eyJEYXRlTGVzc1RoYW4iOnsiQVdTOkVwb2NoVGltZSI6MTczNDYzNjAwMn0sIklwQWRkcmVzcyI6eyJBV1M6U291cmNlSXAiOiIwLjAuMC4wLzAifX19XX0_&Signature=XKisl-oold1BugXkQC1AQsNGNefH5fTmbYxigzhBScongWCFamK2kq6NmX1vKtebxfyO~-7QR1bgCHMYR3dG-xVb97o5~F0WKL-yYmVXXHpBH8ZOjfkTI4nXZiXeI56sm7Fayu9pglOY4Feyht~6N-Yw5Au-nOksrmxGsBBAq0pFfxorJs~ZCgRiocAkGUy680Fk1nhddhb6KXlsKyXCLD14JZ1eJlgyx~VweUPyPjCe4EPpQaMSy4tC6kCDTTfiKObq-SNZrYZ1dwRx3Ibt7CLA2-59F7ASSbljxFZ3YCSxqhDqeY7n6GRpFDr8GlssqFm4oHkZ7MbS97KCJV6pvQ__&Key-Pair-Id=K27MGQSHTHAGGF

This should open and gives step by step instructions.

Allan

 

[Zzyzx01]

Here's a link to a pdf tutorial that I used to plank the Polaris. This guide accompanied with several U-tube videos will give you an idea how to go about it.

https://ia902806.us.archive.org/28/items/boatbuildingmanual/hull%20planking%20project.pdf

...henry

 

[GiddyGibberish]

GG

https://cdn.wildapricot.com/278718/resources/Documents/articles/LiningOffYourHullPlankingTutorialAndFan.pdf?version=1579727184000&Policy=eyJTdGF0ZW1lbnQiOiBbeyJSZXNvdXJjZSI6Imh0dHBzOi8vY2RuLndpbGRhcHJpY290LmNvbS8yNzg3MTgvcmVzb3VyY2VzL0RvY3VtZW50cy9hcnRpY2xlcy9MaW5pbmdPZmZZb3VySHVsbFBsYW5raW5nVHV0b3JpYWxBbmRGYW4ucGRmP3ZlcnNpb249MTU3OTcyNzE4NDAwMCIsIkNvbmRpdGlvbiI6eyJEYXRlTGVzc1RoYW4iOnsiQVdTOkVwb2NoVGltZSI6MTczNDYzNjAwMn0sIklwQWRkcmVzcyI6eyJBV1M6U291cmNlSXAiOiIwLjAuMC4wLzAifX19XX0_&Signature=XKisl-oold1BugXkQC1AQsNGNefH5fTmbYxigzhBScongWCFamK2kq6NmX1vKtebxfyO~-7QR1bgCHMYR3dG-xVb97o5~F0WKL-yYmVXXHpBH8ZOjfkTI4nXZiXeI56sm7Fayu9pglOY4Feyht~6N-Yw5Au-nOksrmxGsBBAq0pFfxorJs~ZCgRiocAkGUy680Fk1nhddhb6KXlsKyXCLD14JZ1eJlgyx~VweUPyPjCe4EPpQaMSy4tC6kCDTTfiKObq-SNZrYZ1dwRx3Ibt7CLA2-59F7ASSbljxFZ3YCSxqhDqeY7n6GRpFDr8GlssqFm4oHkZ7MbS97KCJV6pvQ__&Key-Pair-Id=K27MGQSHTHAGGF

This should open and gives step by step instructions.

Allan

Thanks, Allan, but I'm getting an Access Denied error.

 

[GiddyGibberish]

Here's a link to a pdf tutorial that I used to plank the Polaris. This guide accompanied with several U-tube videos will give you an idea how to go about it.

planking project for beginners at DuckDuckGo

DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

duckduckgo.com

...henry

Thanks, Henry. I was actually reading your build log but must have missed the links so I'll check it out again. That link you gave me takes me to a Duck-Duck-Go search result for planking the exercise. I don't know how to do those either.

 

[GiddyGibberish]

we have several build logs on planking a hull as well as lining off a hull
i have to hull planking under my name to start

Thanks, Dave. I checked out the planking of the Matthew before. Great information but it seemed pretty advanced and not really like a step-by-step instruction on how to approach any old hull. Maybe I missed it so I'll give it another read.

 

[Namabiiru]

Check out this thread

 

[GiddyGibberish]

Hey guys... I found a great video that goes step by step!

 

[Zzyzx01]

Thanks, Henry. I was actually reading your build log but must have missed the links so I'll check it out again. That link you gave me takes me to a Duck-Duck-Go search result for planking the exercise. I don't know how to do those either.

Sorry for my screw-up. I've updated the link in my post... and I can't do that planking exercise either.

 

[AllanKP69]

Thanks, Allan, but I'm getting an Access Denied error.

Sorry about that. Here it is attached as a PDF
Allan

 

[GiddyGibberish]

Sorry about that. Here it is attached as a PDF
Allan

Wow! That is an awesome looking hull on the final result. Looks so authentic. I can't see myself ever getting that good. Strangely discouraging yet awe inspiring.

 

[GiddyGibberish]

Here's a link to a pdf tutorial that I used to plank the Polaris. This guide accompanied with several U-tube videos will give you an idea how to go about it.

https://ia902806.us.archive.org/28/items/boatbuildingmanual/hull%20planking%20project.pdf

...henry

Thanks for the updated link! There sure are a lot of ways to skin a boat! It seems I will need to practice a few techniques before I get started so I'm running out to the hobby store to get some wood to practice with. I'm going to try out every bending method I've seen so far. I'm first going to search for a plan to create the bending stand that I see a lot of people using with heat bending.

 

[AndyA]

Here's how planks are marked out for equal widths on full-size boats, according to John Gardner in his book "Building Classic Small Craft." After the mark out, a lining batten is used to check if everything is fair. The method should be applicable to model vessels.
Fair winds!

 

[Jim Fortnam]

Plenty of good material in this thread. I've checked out some of the links, and they are useful too - though you get a variety of 'this is how I do it' write ups. If you are just starting out, the consensus is that there is no one way to focus your efforts.

For myself, I always turn back to full size practice as a guide. That starts with the ship design. Planking onto bulkheads is a seemingly simple way of building a quality model for show. Modelling a ship - that is, making it like the original, but smaller, is a pain if you go the whole way of building up frames and so forth, but the spacing of those frames is relevant to the way the planks are applied, and my favourite author on the subject - Harold A Underhill, with his 'Plank on Frame Models' gives an excellent treatise on model building, and on the subject of planking points out that builders used a deep understanding of the timber to avoid, as far as possible, the need for forcing timber into place, whilst ensuring a strong frame.

Particularly of relevance is his use of proportional dividers to establish plank widths at each station. Having established your bands using suitable 'battans' it is only necessary to use the dividers, set to the number of planks as the ratio - so, say, if you know you need 7 planks, you set the dividers to 7:1, then mark the plank at each frame station, by setting to the width to be covered (7) and marking fro the other end of the dividers directly not the plank (1/7). the technique can be self correcting, and self adjusts to each frame station as you move along the hull, and of course is used dynamically, so that after applying the plank, you can reset for 1:6, an d any error in the first plank is distributed amongst the next 6, and so on.

His books are a good read too!

Jim

 

[GiddyGibberish]

Plenty of good material in this thread. I've checked out some of the links, and they are useful too - though you get a variety of 'this is how I do it' write ups. If you are just starting out, the consensus is that there is no one way to focus your efforts.

For myself, I always turn back to full size practice as a guide. That starts with the ship design. Planking onto bulkheads is a seemingly simple way of building a quality model for show. Modelling a ship - that is, making it like the original, but smaller, is a pain if you go the whole way of building up frames and so forth, but the spacing of those frames is relevant to the way the planks are applied, and my favourite author on the subject - Harold A Underhill, with his 'Plank on Frame Models' gives an excellent treatise on model building, and on the subject of planking points out that builders used a deep understanding of the timber to avoid, as far as possible, the need for forcing timber into place, whilst ensuring a strong frame.

Particularly of relevance is his use of proportional dividers to establish plank widths at each station. Having established your bands using suitable 'battans' it is only necessary to use the dividers, set to the number of planks as the ratio - so, say, if you know you need 7 planks, you set the dividers to 7:1, then mark the plank at each frame station, by setting to the width to be covered (7) and marking fro the other end of the dividers directly not the plank (1/7). the technique can be self correcting, and self adjusts to each frame station as you move along the hull, and of course is used dynamically, so that after applying the plank, you can reset for 1:6, an d any error in the first plank is distributed amongst the next 6, and so on.

His books are a good read too!

Jim

Thanks, Jim. That’s some good info. I’m going to have to try and find some diagrams or a video of using the proportional dividers as you described. I think I understand but it’s a little hard to visualize.