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So I'm weighing my options for my first project to get started on. I don't really need help deciding, but I would like to know: How do you all come up with measurements with your models? And what are some materials you all use for your rigging?
 
Greetings, and welcome aboard SOS!
The measurements are dictated by the scale of the model. The same model on a scale of 1:96 will be twice as short on a scale of 1:48.

Rigging materials could be cotton or polyester. You can simply purchase the thread in the tekstile stores. If you chose your first project as the kit, then, most likely the manufacturer will supply the rigging material. Some are decent quality, others not so. Many scratch builders are winding their rigging lines. Another option is to purchase the rigging line from online stores.

hope this help
 
Hi Ashtyn

Welcome to SOS.

You can start with a kit. Kits have all materials both woods and accesories.

Most of kit vendors rate their kits from basic to advance. You can choose a basic one according to your taste.

But you need some basic tools to contstruct your model even you have a kit.

You can check beginner section of forum here. And you'll find all the ingormation you need and dont hesitate to ask if you'll have any questions.


Best regards

Bilal
 
Hey Ashtyn. It depends on what you are measuring. For small stuff I use a digital caliper. You can use a dial one also, I just find for my old and tired eyes the digital is easier to read and the one I have can do metric, decimal inches or fractional inches so as a result, you can easily convert as well. You can get them at lots of different places. I believe I got mine at Home Depot. If you are talking about how we measure the length of rigging to cut off before we attach it to the ship, I just cut a length that is considerably oversized so you have the free end to work with and then trim it off after it is attached. Up to currently, I have just used the rigging material that has come with the kit. If I end up needing to get replacement line, I will go to one of our sponsor vendors, many of whom have lines of various size and color available.

I hope that helps!

Jeff
 
Hi Ashtyn

Welcome to SOS.

You can start with a kit. Kits have all materials both woods and accesories.

Most of kit vendors rate their kits from basic to advance. You can choose a basic one according to your taste.

But you need some basic tools to contstruct your model even you have a kit.

You can check beginner section of forum here. And you'll find all the ingormation you need and dont hesitate to ask if you'll have any questions.


Best regards

Bilal
Thank you! I'll definitely give that a look!
 
I'm building my first ship kit in a while, and I have similar questions about the rigging material. Just from looking at the kit, it looks to me like the blocks that came with the kit are over-sized. Also, the rigging line seems too stiff.

I've found a site or two that sells blocks of varying sizes. Do most modelers here purchase aftermarket blocks and rigging line? Do some modelers make their own blocks?
 
I've found a site or two that sells blocks of varying sizes. Do most modelers here purchase aftermarket blocks and rigging line? Do some modelers make their own blocks?
Many kit assemblers use blocks and rigging lines supplied in their kits. The majority of the kits come with poor quality blocks, like you said oversized, they do need some modifications. Some of the kit manufacturers provide really nice blocks and quality rigging, like the Faklconet and Master Korabel kits.

Purchase the aftermarket blocks and rigging lines is a personal choice, but once installed, the model looks different

Yes, some modelers make their blocks, we have quite many members who make their blocks.
 
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The ropes from the kits are always bad, they need to be replaced if you want to build a decent model. To make ropes, buy a cable winder and Guterman e121 threads. Black-brown threads for standing rigging, beige or gray-beige for running rigging. Watch how to make ropes yourself on YouTube.
 
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Once again welcome on board.

On the question of how to measure, like others have said a good digital caliper is needed to tell the different sizes of wood supplied and called for.

I also use my cutting mat for "close enough" ruff measurements, and I have both a small steel ruler in inches and metric and a small fabric soft flexible tape for use when needed.

When you have picked your first kit and are ready to start, please post a build log, so we can see what your doing, and we can all help if you have a problem or questions.

Use the search tool to look up the kit or ships name to see what other build logs are here, many often have figured out how to get common problems solved.
 
I'm building my first ship kit in a while, and I have similar questions about the rigging material. Just from looking at the kit, it looks to me like the blocks that came with the kit are over-sized. Also, the rigging line seems too stiff.

I've found a site or two that sells blocks of varying sizes. Do most modelers here purchase aftermarket blocks and rigging line? Do some modelers make their own blocks?
Yes, some modelers are making own blocks and also rope, but for your first model I would look around for aftermarket blocks and ropes. This you can try later one with your 3.rd or 4.th model - I would concenbtrate with my first model to get experience with the important constrcution methods...

Try DryDock, which have in my opinion the best quality blocks for reasonable prices

 
Thanks for the replies. Now I have another question.

I've looked at the drydock site. I see blocks and rigging line. Is there a chart of some kind that shows what sizes one would need to order? If I were to purchase some 2.5mm blocks, what size of rigging line would I need? I would need to purchase rigging line that would fit into the blocks.

Thanks,
Jimmy
 
Thanks for the replies. Now I have another question.

I've looked at the drydock site. I see blocks and rigging line. Is there a chart of some kind that shows what sizes one would need to order? If I were to purchase some 2.5mm blocks, what size of rigging line would I need? I would need to purchase rigging line that would fit into the blocks.

Thanks,
Jimmy
There is a vast array of sizes of rigging on real ships. For instance, the halyard on the HMS Victory for the mainsail will be much larger than the halyard for your little pram. :) As a result, there would be many different sizes used for kits. It would be dependent on the size of the ship and then also the scale of the model of the ship. You also run into will you really be able to tell the difference in the size of the rigging if it is 0.1 mm diameter difference? Not to mention that the manufacturer probably can't make line to that accuracy. I would imagine that some 0.3 to 0.6mm would look good if you are not going to determine what the scale size of the line should be.
 
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