i need help fot the upper and lower fore topsails

[maurizio]

Hi i got some problems as i wrote in the title with sails, i do not understand where the ropes of the of the sails goes at the end.
This is the images where the ropes has to move inside and outside the single block (The first image) where the arrow indicates me to put the ropes down where? (Mast pin rail?)
Thanks in advance

 

[DARIVS ARCHITECTVS]

Yes, the numbers tell you where each rope will be secured to, or belaying point. It can be a cleat, kevel, rail, or belaying pin. You SHOULD have a top view deck diagram that has numbered locations where these lines should be tied to. This is called a belaying plan. In most cases, these locations are not historically accurate in 16th and 17th century ships, because we know very little about the conventions these early ships had for where they tie off their lines. It's largely guesswork. More information on rigging was available for later 18th and 19th century ships, so you have some guidance on the typical patterns on where lines were belayed to. What ship are you building?

 

[maurizio]

Hello and thanks Darvis Architectvs,
my project is the Gjoa Constructo 1/64 i post the photo of top view but the numbers out there are not for the rope but for the position of the deck items, drill holes and few other things, anyway you gave me an explanation of where to "send" those ropes thanks again.
I've noticed the instruction of this ship is not much clear, before i noticed i.e. to make some holes and others not, so every page i had to check further in the instruction to check if and how to make a job.
Obviously is my personal opinion, the next one is a Bucanner OcCre so maybe will be different

 

[Bilal ZEYBEKOĞLU]

Hi Maurizio

There is a building log about Gjoa. There are lots of photos. Maybe this log will help you.

Gjoa 1/64 - Constructo

My Gjoa from Constructo. It was my first ship and a lot of things are not ok. But it was a very good lession for me. For the sails i needed 3 month and i stitched them three times.

shipsofscale.com

 

[Bilal ZEYBEKOĞLU]

As far as I understand from your photos, most probably 8 belaying pins at the bow are for bowsprit ropes.

And most probably tying order of ropes are 7 ,8,12,10 for port, 6,9,13,11 for starboard side (from stern to stem)

Make sure the ropes do not get tangled. So you can change the tying order I wrote.

 

[DARIVS ARCHITECTVS]

I can't believe Constructo did not provide a belaying plan. That's essential in a kit. Hopefully that other build log will provide clues as to where the lines should be tied off. It's annoying when you have to guess which lines go where and a belaying pin rack. You have to study the direction of the lines and come up with a plan that makes the most sense and doesn't allow lines to get crossed.

 

[Uwek]

As I know our member Oliver alias @Olivers Historic Shipyard built some years ago the Goja model, so maybe he can help or give some photos of his model showing the belaying points in detail

Her posted photos of his well built model in german forum, but I think, that you can not see the photos without being a member

Baubericht » Gjøa - Constructo - 1/64

Hallo Leute, ein kurzer Schnelldurchlauf meines ersten Projektes. Um den Holzschiffbau überhaupt mal anzutesten habe ich letztes Jahr die Gjoa gestartet.

www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com

 

[Olivers Historic Shipyard]

Hi,

the plan is clear in the most points. If it´s correct is a other thing, but you can follow this in my opinion.
I posted any pictures here from my Gjoa. A building log you can find as well on my facebooksite.
I builded the Kit 95 % out of the box, with all mistakes and errors.

Gjoa 1/64 - Constructo

My Gjoa from Constructo. It was my first ship and a lot of things are not ok. But it was a very good lession for me. For the sails i needed 3 month and i stitched them three times.

shipsofscale.com

 

[Uwek]

Sorry,
but we have Olivers model also here in our forum - completele forgot about it - sorry

Gjoa 1/64 - Constructo

My Gjoa from Constructo. It was my first ship and a lot of things are not ok. But it was a very good lession for me. For the sails i needed 3 month and i stitched them three times.

shipsofscale.com

and there is the belaing plan in the drawings - many thanks Oliver

 

[maurizio]

Well i must to say to all of you many thanks, now it opened a door with the instructions to see in that way.
Hope to post something in the next days
I'm using atm the infographic which you gave me the link which is very useful (must to say as well beautiful model built)