IL SAINT-PHILIPPE 1693 monografia Ancre

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Wow :cool:
many thanks for the info about the new monographie of the three-decker 90-gun ship Saint Philippe by Jean-Claude LEMINEUR

with the length of 130 cm for only the hull it will be a big model !!

I will order one copy for me - 4,5 kg paper with 45 drawings - really a big size monographie

This is written on the ancre page:

Among these new vessels the Saint-Philippe, built in 1693 by Francois Coulomb at Toulon, would have an especially rich career, under the command of illustrious officers. She was especially noteworthy at the battle of Velez-Malaga in 1704 under the command of the Chevalier d’Infreville but this campaign would be her last.

The rare nature of studies dedicated to Louis XIV’s navy, the prestige surrounding the vessel under study, the abundance of pictorial information and the rich nature of the numerous commentaries makes this monograph a matchless trove.

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• 224 page brochure containing the source, the history and reduced-scale plates with commentaries
• 16 page full-color booklet showing details of admiralty-style rigged models
• 45 large format plates showing the full description of the vessel. (The sails and The Saint-Philippe under sail 1/96).

Chapter 1 - Presentation of sources
1.1 Data defi ning the general architecture and construction elements
1.2 Elements of decoration
1.3 Colors used in the days of the Saint-Philippe
1.4 Discussion about the theme of the decoration
1.5 Origins of vessels of the class of the Saint-Philippe
1.6 State of the Navy after 1692.

Chapter II - Flag-carrying vessels
2.1 Saint-Philippe, 1662 – 1692
2.2 Royal Louis 1668 – 1697
2.3 Soleil Royal 1669 – 1692.

Chapter III - The Coulombs, father and son and the Toulon naval constructions.
Chapter IV - Evolution of bronze guns casting.
Chapter V - Summary of the Saint-Philippe’s operational career.
Chapter VI - Description of the timber structure.
Construction of the vessel accompanied by 31 reducedscale plates.
Chapter VII - Drawings and commentaries of the plates.
Chapter VIII - Commentaries on photographs of models.

Translated by François Fougerat

https://ancre.fr/en/monograph/93-le-saint-philippe-1693.html


Here also the short info given at wikipedia about the ship:

The Saint Philippe was a First Rank ship of the line of the French Royal Navy, the second vessel in the two-ship Tonnant Class (her sister being the Tonnant).

This ship was ordered in late 1692 to be built at Toulon Dockyard, and on 20 January 1693 she was allotted the name Saint Philippe, taking the name of a ship lost in the Action at La Hogue in June 1692. The designer and builder of both ships was François Coulomb, and they represented an enlargement of his design of 1691 for the Sceptre, with an extra pair of guns (and gunports) added on each level. They were three-decker ships without forecastles. The Saint Philippe was launched on October 1693 and completed in December of the same year.

She was initially armed with 90 guns, comprising twenty-eight 36-pounders on the lower deck, thirty 18-pounders on the middle deck, twenty-six 12-pounders on the upper deck, and six 6-pounders on the quarterdeck.

The Saint Philippe was rebuilt at Toulon from February 1699 to 1700; she took part in the Battle of Vélez-Málaga on 24 August 1703. In July 1707 - during the siege of Toulon - she and her sister were undergoing a refit in the basin of Le Mourillon, and avoided the scuttling order which affected most other French ships at Toulon; they were sailed to counter the British attack, and subsequently were used as floating batteries. The Saint Philippe was condemned at Toulon on 18 August 1714, and was subsequently taken to pieces.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ship_Saint_Philippe_(1693)
 

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Buon lavoro, speriamo che i disegni di LEMINEUR siano all'altezza delle altre monografie Ancre e di Delacroix perchè sui disegni della carpenteria dell'Hermione c'erano diversi errori...

Google translation (by Uwek):
Good job, we hope that the drawings of LEMINEUR are up to the other monographs Ancre and Delacroix because on the drawings of the Hermione carpentry there were several errors ...
 
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Buon lavoro, speriamo che i disegni di LEMINEUR siano all'altezza delle altre monografie Ancre e di Delacroix perchè sui disegni della carpenteria dell'Hermione c'erano diversi errori...

Google translation (by Uwek):
Good job, we hope that the drawings of LEMINEUR are up to the other monographs Ancre and Delacroix because on the drawings of the Hermione carpentry there were several errors ...
Nobody is perfect - I realized also at the Salamandre, that there are small errors - but this is good for our brain - Never stop thinking!

BTW:
Jean-Claude Lemineur, the author of the new monographie will also participate at the congress in Rochefort this week, like myself......so I hope to see his new planset and I will report.
Also Patrick Villiers will be there for some days Coffee-Cup




 
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Certamente, anch'io li ho riscontrati nella Salamandre. Ma quelle erano le prime monografie. Le altre ora vengono fatte in 3d. Quando era stato chiesto di brevettare i piani dell'Hermione gli furono fatti notare gli errori. Lui li poteva correggere ma non l'ha fatto solo per non modificare dei disegni già stampati e li ha messi in commercio errati pur sapendo di questo fatto. Non aggiungo altro. Ora visto che questa nuova monografia costa anche abbastanza rispetto alle altre, bisogna valutare se saranno soldi spesi bene.
Ciao, buona giornata, un abbraccio :)

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Of course, I found them in the Salamandre too. But those were the first monographs. The others are now done in 3d. When he was asked to patent Hermione's plans, he was reminded of the errors. He could correct them but he did not do it just to not modify the drawings already printed and he put them on the wrong market even though he knew about this fact. I do not add anything else. Now seeing that this new monograph is also quite expensive compared to the others, we need to consider whether it will be well spent money.
Hello, have a nice day,
 
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Hello Uwe, I have ordered and payed my monographie in Oktober and haven't still not got . As you I ordered in English. Have you got any idea? I don't think I'll get answer from Ancre before next year. Perhaps you have got an idea? Yours Heinrich
 

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Hello Uwe, I have ordered and payed my monographie in Oktober and haven't still not got . As you I ordered in English. Have you got any idea? I don't think I'll get answer from Ancre before next year. Perhaps you have got an idea? Yours Heinrich
AS I know, Didier Berti received a bigger number of orders for the new monographie and he was doing a big job to prepare all the postages in December. Sending was from the beginning planned after the release in December.
He started with the sending the books one week before christmas, so I guess that your copy was maybe some days later brought to post and with the holidays a little bit delayed. Ancre is a very reliable publisher and I am pretty sure, that your copy is on the way.....
Are a planning to build this model?
 
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