Need Help to identify ship, artist, action on an old painting

[wmgrimball]

I recently bought a marine painting which is in terrible shape. Before I have it restored I thought it wise to photograph it and ask you all if you can help me identify the ship, the painter and action thinking the restoration might obscure the facts. My best guess from my own research is that the vessel depicted is a Dutch 20 gun frigate built in the late 18th century engaged in a fight with an unknown. The ship appears to be firing a rolling broadside from stem to stern. The painter's initials are ER and appear in the lower right-hand corner. I have been unable to identify a Dutch or English painter with those initials. When first painted, it must have been a masterpiece. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Steef66]

I have no idea. But my first thought was the VOC ship Amsterdam. The replica lies in Amsterdam. But there are to much difference to the replica and you painting.

Opgeknapte replica van VOC-schip Amsterdam terug bij het Scheepvaartmuseum

Vijftig man werkten zeven maanden lang aan het dichten van kieren, het vervangen van slechte houtdelen, het schilderen en het vervangen van de 3 masten van de Amsterdam.

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[kidsgalore]

Hi found this if any help
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[Uwek]

Hi found this if any helpView attachment 294109
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good hint, but

OIDENTIFIERAD KONSTNÄR. Oil on canvas, marine motif, signed ER and dated 1914.

Martin motif of ship following pilot boat. Image area 42.5 x 59.5, frame dimensions 53 x 70 cm

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Bilder zu 1094577. OIDENTIFIERAD KONSTNÄR. Öl auf Leinwand, Schiffsmotiv „S/S Oceania“, signiert ER und datiert 1914. - Auctionet

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signed with "ER", but I guess it is a different painter,m because the signature and also the style of painting

this is the signature on your painting


BTW it is hard to define a certain ship shown on the painting - here not a lot of details are shown and it looks slightly abstract
somehow a frigate with around 24 guns......

 

[Uwek]

You did not show a photo of the backside...... sometimes there are any additional information given, marked, stamped etc.

 

[Namabiiru]

Better be careful about inviting a Yank to show you his backside...

 

[Uwek]

I recently bought a marine painting which is in terrible shape. Before I have it restored I thought it wise to photograph it and ask you all if you can help me identify the ship, the painter and action thinking the restoration might obscure the facts. My best guess from my own research is that the vessel depicted is a Dutch 20 gun frigate built in the late 18th century engaged in a fight with an unknown. The ship appears to be firing a rolling broadside from stem to stern. The painter's initials are ER and appear in the lower right-hand corner. I have been unable to identify a Dutch or English painter with those initials. When first painted, it must have been a masterpiece. Any help would be appreciated.

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[Uwek]

I recently bought a marine painting which is in terrible shape. Before I have it restored I thought it wise to photograph it and ask you all if you can help me identify the ship, the painter and action thinking the restoration might obscure the facts. My best guess from my own research is that the vessel depicted is a Dutch 20 gun frigate built in the late 18th century engaged in a fight with an unknown. The ship appears to be firing a rolling broadside from stem to stern. The painter's initials are ER and appear in the lower right-hand corner. I have been unable to identify a Dutch or English painter with those initials. When first painted, it must have been a masterpiece. Any help would be appre

Hallo @wmgrimball
we wish you all the BEST and a HAPPY BIRTHDAY