Occre Endeavour Kit - Help Identifying Parts

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Hi there :
I need a bit of help finding some parts in this kit.

I've just cut the shrinkwrap from this kit box and have spent the day coming to terms with the plans, instructions and diagrams to get a feel for how Occre puts its kits together.
I have built Artesania Latina's Caravel Santa Maria kit but the Occre kit is very different in the way they put the kit together and explain all the parts.

This is the issue I have :
On the 1/1 scale plans that come with the kit detailing the construction of the bowsprit it shows part M3 as being made of 3x40 Brass. There are 7x such brass rings required.
I've been through all the kit materials but can't find anything that is 3x40mm brass.

For those who own/have built this kit, can you tell me where the brass strips are for these parts? Did you have them in your kit?

Thanks and best regards,
Rick
 
I believe the brass parts should be in the plastic containers.
They will be a flat strip that you need to form around the bowsprit.
It will be 3mm wide and 40 mm long.
 
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Hi Jeff :
The first thing I did when trying to find these strips was to look through the 2x plastic parts containers that came in the box but no luck.
I wonder how many other parts are called out in the drawings for which there are no actually supplied pieces ?!?

Rick
 
Hi again Jeff:
I found the errant brass strips in the exact location that you indicated in the photo.
I hadn’t opened that plastic container and the 12 off 3x100mm strips of brass were hidden amongst all the brass rod pieces.

I had looked through the transparent container several times but never spotted the brass strips amongst the brass rods.

As I said to Mrs Rick … people like you are so nice and kind to go to that much trouble to help me out. So I thank you sincerely.

All the best,
Rick
 
I doubt that I could/would write a build log as there are several logs already posted here for this Occre model kit. An extra one from me would probably just be boring and I may not trust myself to keep up a timetable to post build updates. I'm a bit lazy!

I'm still trying to coming to grips with Occre's rigging diagrams in their instruction manual and have purchased the Petersson book on square sail rigging. And I also have the Ray Parkin treatise on the H.M. Bark Endeavour (he's a fellow Australian so I definitely wanted that book).

There's the Anatomy of the Ship series book on the Endeavour by Karl Marquardt that many modellers recommend but it's been very hard to find a decent 2nd hand copy that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. And new editions seem impossible to find.

I'm currently planking the upper decks of my model and enjoying the build process.


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Rick
 
The deck planking looks really good. As your hull is not yet planked it brought up a question and would love to hear thoughts/experiences. Is it better to do the deck planking before the hull or the other way around? Is there torsion created by doing one or the other first, thus twisting the keel and hull? I have no idea as to the answer, but curious, as I have experienced having to slightly straighten out the hull/keel on one occasion when planking the hull first which was my normal course of action.

Allan
 
RickW said:
I doubt that I could/would write a build log as there are several logs already posted here for this Occre model kit. An extra one from me would probably just be boring and I may not trust myself to keep up a timetable to post build updates. I'm a bit lazy!

I'm still trying to coming to grips with Occre's rigging diagrams in their instruction manual and have purchased the Petersson book on square sail rigging. And I also have the Ray Parkin treatise on the H.M. Bark Endeavour (he's a fellow Australian so I definitely wanted that book).

There's the Anatomy of the Ship series book on the Endeavour by Karl Marquardt that many modellers recommend but it's been very hard to find a decent 2nd hand copy that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. And new editions seem impossible to find.

I'm currently planking the upper decks of my model and enjoying the build process.


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Rick
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Your work looks great !
There is this one on the US Ebay site. Says it ships to Austrailia. :)
$35 USD.
Link to Ebay AotS Endeavour
Best of luck !
 
AllanKP69 said:
The deck planking looks really good. As your hull is not yet planked it brought up a question and would love to hear thoughts/experiences. Is it better to do the deck planking before the hull or the other way around? Is there torsion created by doing one or the other first, thus twisting the keel and hull? I have no idea as to the answer, but curious, as I have experienced having to slightly straighten out the hull/keel on one occasion when planking the hull first which was my normal course of action.

Allan
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Hi Allan :
I can’t see that it makes any difference between planking the hull or laying the decks first.
If the underlying false keel and frames are made true and square with plenty of glue and reinforcements in the first place then nothing added after that should encourage frames to be warped or the keel to be crooked.
My thinking is that there are zero torsional or tension forces introduced to the frame members just because we glue another plank on, and therefore there should be zero tendency to twist the frame or keel.

In the case of my current Endeavour build I noticed, after the frames, keel and lower deck were fully glued up , that the keel piece at the bow had a slight twist/ bend in it that wasn’t there when the frames were glued up. This was straightened by cutting deep horizontal kerfs into the bow frame piece, applying plenty of PVA glue and clamping up till fully dry.

In essence it shouldn’t, matter which sets of timbers goes first.

Hope this helps your thoughts on the matter
Rick
 
Thanks Rick. I am sure keeping the keel in a fixed track the entire length is key regardless of framing or deck beams going in first.
Allan
 
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