Planset review SAINT PHILIPPE (1693 - 1715) - a 90 gun built by Francois Coulomb at Toulon" by Jean-Claude LEMINEUR

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Planset Review: Monographie:
SAINT PHILIPPE (1693 - 1715) - 90 gun built by Francois Coulomb at Toulon
by Jean-Claude LEMINEUR
in scale 1:48
Translated by François Fougerat

many thanks to Didier Berti who made this Review possible !

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This monographie is available from ancre in different languages, which can be choosen - English / French or Italian
In addition you can choose also the monographie in different scales.
Available are: 1:36, 1:48 or 1:72

https://ancre.fr/en/monograph/93-le-saint-philippe-1693.html

My copy, you can see here, is in scale 1:48

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Size of the model in different scales for hull (coque) and Model rigged (Modele greé)
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SYNOPSIS:

This monograph is dedicated to one of the most prestigious vessels of Louis XIV Navy, rebuilt after the disaster at La Hougue and that is usually referred to as the Second Navy.

The Saint-Philippe has in no way the reputation of the SoleilRoyal, an emblematic vessel built at Brestin 1669. Its renown, is associated with the battle of Barfleur where, as she was positioned at the center of the fleet, she was subjected all day long to British fire before falling the next day to the assault of the enemy’s fire-ships.

Reality was quite otherwise: barely three years had been enough for it to be rebuilt. The launching of 30 vessels, 12 of them 90 to 100-gun first rates, gave it a strength that had been unmatched until then and giving it the opportunity to get its revenge.

Among these new vessels the Saint-Philippe, built in 1693 by Francois Coulomb at Toulon, would have an especially rich career, under the command of illustrious officers. She was especially noteworthy at the battle of Velez-Malaga in 1704 under the command of the Chevalier d’Infreville but this campaign would be her last.

The rare nature of studies dedicated to Louis XIV’s navy, the prestige surrounding the vessel under study, the abundance of pictorial information and the rich nature of the numerous commentaries makes this monograph a matchless trove.


ORGANIZATION OF THE MONOGRAPH - total weight is 4,5 kg

16 page full-color booklet showing details of admiralty-style rigged models (1)

220 page brochure containing the source, the history and reduced-scale plates with commentaries (2)

45 large format plates showing the full description of the vessel. (The sails and The Saint-Philippe under sail 1/96) (3)

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16 page full-color booklet (it is the booklet used for advertisement - and it is working!!!!)

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CONTENT of the BOOKLET

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Chapter 1 – PRESENTATION OF SOURCES
1.1 Data defining the general architecture and construction elements
1.2 Elements of decoration
1.3 Color of the paints used in the era of the Saint-Philippe
1.4 Considerations about the themes of the decorations
1.5 The Origins of vessels of the ship class of the Saint-Philippe
1.6 State of the Navy after 1692.

Chapter II - FLAGSHIPS
2.1 Saint-Philippe, 1662 – 1692
2.2 Royal Louis 1668 – 1697
2.3 Soleil Royal 1669 – 1692.

Chapter III – THE COULOMBS; FATHER AND SON AND NAVAL CONSTRUCTION AT TOULON
3.1 The rise of Toulon and its shipyard in the Reign of Louis XIV
3.2 The evolution of naval construction in France
3.3 The Coulomb family and Toulon naval construction

Chapter IV – PRODUCTION AND EVOLUTION OF THE DECORATION OF ARTILLERY PIECES CAST IN BRONZE (1668-1725).

Chapter V – SUMMARY OF THE OPERATIONAL CAREER OF THE SAINT-PHILIPPE
5.1 Events following La Hougue, until 1693
5.2 The Saint-Philippe in 1694, as Tourville´s flagship
5.3 In 1695, the Saint-Philippe changes from Tourville´s to Chateaurenault´s command
5.4 The year 1697
5.5 The Saint-Philippe from 1698 to 1700
5.6 The Saint-Philippe in 1701 and 1702
5.7 The Saint-Philippe in 1703
5.8 The Saint-Philippe and the battle of Velez-Malaga 22.-23. August 1704
5.9 The battle of Velez-Malaga
5.10 1707: The siege of Toulon

Chapter VI – MONOGRAPH DESCRIPTION OF THE TIMBER FRAMES
6.1 Description of the Structural Elements
6.2 Main Dimensions of the Saint-Philippe
6.3 Nomenclature of referenced objects
(Construction of the vessel accompanied by 31 reduced scale plates.)

Chapter VII – COMMENTS ON THE PLATES
7.1 Corps du vaisseau (Body of the ship)
7.2 Masting
7.3 Sails
7.4 Setting up the rigging

Chapter VIII - Commentaries on photographs of models.


CONTENT of the DRAWINGS

Pl.1 Schematic elevation of the vessel
Pl.2 Schematic plan
Pl.3 Body plan
Pl.4 Construction of the head
Pl.5 Construction of the stern-frame
Pl.6 to Pl.14 Profile of the frames.
Pl.15 Elevation of the timber framing
Pl.16 Longitudinal section without furniture
Pl.17 Longitudinal section including furniture
Pl.18 Cross-section of the stern at station frame VI aft
Pl.19 Cross-sections at station frames V aft to III aft
Pl.20 Cross-sections at frames II aft to the main middle mould
Pl.21 Cross-sections from the main middle mould to frame II forward
Pl.22 Cross-sections from frame III to V forward
Pl.23 Plan of the hold
Pl.24 Arrangements in the hold and orlop deck
Pl.25 Plan of the first deck timber structure
Pl.26 Plan of the first deck including furniture
Pl.27 Plan of the second deck timber structure
Pl.28 Plan of the second deck including furniture
Pl.29 Plan of the third deck timber structure
Pl.30 Plan of the third deck including furniture
Pl.31 Plan of the quarterdeck timber structure
Pl.32 Plan of te quarterdeck acomodations and poop deck timber structure
Pl.33 Elevation view of the planked hull
Pl.34 Elevation view of the decorated hull
Pl.35 Structure of the stern and quarter-galleries
Pl.36 Decoration of the stern and head
Pl.37 Furniture I - Anchors - artillery - galley
Pl.38 Furniture II - Rudder - capstan - bitts
Pl.39 Furniture III - hatches - longboat - boats
Pl.40 Decoration and furnishings of the accomodations
Pl.41 Mainmast spars
Pl.42 Foremast spars
Pl.43 Mizzenmast and bowsprit spars
Pl.44 Sails (1/96 scale)
Pl.45 The St-Philippe under sail (1/96 scale)

Final Comment:

Not much to say, only - a wonderful complete and heavy planset and monographie of a technically and historical very interesting ship.
As usual from the ancre publications - Highly recommended

Please see also the following posts in which we make a detailed LOOK INSIDE in the booklet and the drawings
 

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Part II - The booklet
Planset Review: Monographie:
SAINT PHILIPPE (1693 - 1715) - 90 gun built by Francois Coulomb at Toulon
by Jean-Claude LEMINEUR
in scale 1:48
Translated by François Fougerat


LOOK INSIDE of the BOOKLET

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Please see also the following posts in which we make a detailed LOOK INSIDE in the drawings ....
 
Part III - The drawings / plans
Planset Review: Monographie:
SAINT PHILIPPE (1693 - 1715) - 90 gun built by Francois Coulomb at Toulon
by Jean-Claude LEMINEUR
in scale 1:48
Translated by François Fougerat

from the attached Advertisement pdf
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LOOK INSIDE of the DRAWINGS

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In the following post you will see two amazing models built based on this monographie - both modelers worked together with Lemineur during the preparation.
I made the photos during my visit in Rochefort, where I had also the chance to get introduced to Didier Berti and Gerard Delacroix

https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/...chefort-france-18-th-21-st-october-2018.2050/
 

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The 1:48 scale model of the Le Saint Philippe, 1.st rate Ship of the line, built by Jose Tuset, based on the new monographie from J.C. Lemineur



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Thank you for this review.I am seriously considering this in 1/36!!.If I only scratchbuild one of these monographs in my lifetime,this will probably be the one.I was holding out for the English reprint of L'Ambitieux.but this vessel is simply stunning.
I need to look at equipping my workshop with the facility to work from 2 to 3 inch thick Pear planks.With the quantity of timber needed,I would have to buy in bulk

Kind Regards

Nigel
 
Thank you for this review.I am seriously considering this in 1/36!!.If I only scratchbuild one of these monographs in my lifetime,this will probably be the one.I was holding out for the English reprint of L'Ambitieux.but this vessel is simply stunning.
I need to look at equipping my workshop with the facility to work from 2 to 3 inch thick Pear planks.With the quantity of timber needed,I would have to buy in bulk

Kind Regards

Nigel
Would be a Pob or Admiralty style??
 
Admiralty Zolly,in the style of Berhard Frolich more than likely.I think I have the skill,but I know I only have the time to realistically build ONE of these models.I fancy 1/36,this is the preferred scale of my friend Alexey Banarov.I have seen the great details he can incorporate in his models at this scale.I will evaluate further when we have moved house.I will have the workshop space and the room to display such a model.
I could chip away at this in the background with my other builds.I would need to start soon:)I reckon on 15 to 20 years for a build of that magnatude:oops:

Kind Regards

Nigel
 
Admiralty Zolly,in the style of Berhard Frolich more than likely.I think I have the skill,but I know I only have the time to realistically build ONE of these models.I fancy 1/36,this is the preferred scale of my friend Alexey Banarov.I have seen the great details he can incorporate in his models at this scale.I will evaluate further when we have moved house.I will have the workshop space and the room to display such a model.
I could chip away at this in the background with my other builds.I would need to start soon:)I reckon on 15 to 20 years for a build of that magnatude:oops:

Kind Regards

Nigel

By a chance ,do you know what concotion Alexey using to stain his ropes for models,I have seen him doing it somewhere?
 
Hi Zolly
Not exactly,but I know it contained bitumen,beeswax and I think either turpentine or parafin.I once asked him what the mix was that he used for ageing the timber on his models.He was reluctant to go into details,his secret recipe;)he did send me various copies of historic documents detailing the process and said to me all the information is there mmm.

Kind regards

Nigel
 
Well I took a deep breath and bit the bullet and ordered the English version of this monograph in 1/36:oops:
Now I will keep an eye out for the postman coming to my door in a forklift truckROTF

Kind Regards

Nigel
WOW - congratulations for this decision and I am happy, that my Topic was helpful to make it.
My copy is in scale 1:48 and has 4,5 kg weight, so I guess the scale 1:36 version will have 6 or 7 kg total weight.

Did you check the model dimensions carefully?

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In scale 1:36 the fully rigged model will be 210 cm long, 180 cm height and will have a width of 84 cm - this will be a great model.

But please, definitely please make a building log of this model !!!!!
 
Hi Ewe
Firstly thankyou for you insight into this publication.Yes I did,whether I build her masted or not,will be decided down the road.I focused primarily on the hull size.
A few things that made me choose the scale;
SO much detail can be added with good metalwork skills rather than jewellery making skills
The huge beam of the model gives me plenty of room for my big hands when working inside.
The plethora of carvings and fine window frames can be in more of the correct proportions at this scale,you are not limited by the mechanical properties of the material.
Greater view of the internals,I don't know whether I will chop sections of frames out on one side,I am unsure at this size as movement in the timber is a real issue.
My choice has also been influenced by the work of Alexey Banarov on his Cumberland,a English 74 in this scale and one model I remember when I first started making wooden models.It was Agamemnon in 1/24!It was built by the owner of a modelshop in Norfolk and I spent a great deal of time admiring it.It was in a long glass case and took pride of place in the middle of his shop.

Kind Regards

Nigel
 
Hi Ewe
Firstly thankyou for you insight into this publication.Yes I did,whether I build her masted or not,will be decided down the road.I focused primarily on the hull size.
A few things that made me choose the scale;
SO much detail can be added with good metalwork skills rather than jewellery making skills
The huge beam of the model gives me plenty of room for my big hands when working inside.
The plethora of carvings and fine window frames can be in more of the correct proportions at this scale,you are not limited by the mechanical properties of the material.
Greater view of the internals,I don't know whether I will chop sections of frames out on one side,I am unsure at this size as movement in the timber is a real issue.
My choice has also been influenced by the work of Alexey Banarov on his Cumberland,a English 74 in this scale and one model I remember when I first started making wooden models.It was Agamemnon in 1/24!It was built by the owner of a modelshop in Norfolk and I spent a great deal of time admiring it.It was in a long glass case and took pride of place in the middle of his shop.

Kind Regards

Nigel
Nigel - I can fully understand your words - and underline them too -> very good decision -> I am really looking forward to see in future this work
 
Thank you Uwe
I will post a couple of pics of the main drawing to illustrate the sheer size.Hopefully the publication will land this week,I paid the extra money for fast delivery,it paled into insignificance with the cost of the monograph.
I spend my time now whilst waiting to move house researching woodworking machinery:D
When do you plan on starting yours?We could do a build in tandem,but I have a lot to do before I think about starting.

Kind Regards

Nigel
 
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