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Question re: Planking

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As I am New to this forum, not to sure what to expect...As my 1st Concern, regarding model boats,
Is it possible to use 1/16 x 1/4 bamboo for planking? I am currently beginning a new project, 36 inch
model of a West Coast Troller/Halibut Boat Similar to something as included photo...Thanks for Advise in advance


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A warm welcome to SoS to you!!
The subject of bamboo planking came up here at SoS recently and may give you some guidance. Bamboo is great for some things, but the consensus is that bamboo for planking is not a good choice for most builders. Do a search of "bamboo" in the Advanced Search box and it will bring up the string of comments.
Allan
Allan
 
Ship model kits here in the USA typically include basswood as a planking material. European kits use a European relative called lime (not the citrus fruit) They also include a mystery wood that they call “walnut” to overlay the lime to allow the model to be finished naturally. I believe that there are two reasons for this: First, the obsession for mimicking the lovely dockyard models of the Seventeenth and Eighteenth Centuries and second to avoid painting which many model builders hate to do. IMHO the models would look much better painted.

Hopefully, you are planning to paint your model.

At least here in your southern neighbor, basswood is readily available from specialty lumber dealers, but I have another suggestion- Pine. You should be able to find this locally as construction lumber. If you are scratch building a 36” long model you must have a well equipped workshop. Go to your local lumberyard and sort through the pile of 1” lumber, looking for straight grained stock. It doesn’t have to be knot free as you will be sawing it up. Pine is harder than basswood, but not too hard to be easily worked.

I don’t know how well pine bends, but if you can find some Spruce, it bends well. It is lighter than pine.

These overlooked native softwoods can be used to build nice models.

Roger
 
Ship model kits here in the USA typically include basswood as a planking material. European kits use a European relative called lime (not the citrus fruit) They also include a mystery wood that they call “walnut” to overlay the lime to allow the model to be finished naturally. I believe that there are two reasons for this: First, the obsession for mimicking the lovely dockyard models of the Seventeenth and Eighteenth Centuries and second to avoid painting which many model builders hate to do. IMHO the models would look much better painted.

Hopefully, you are planning to paint your model.

At least here in your southern neighbor, basswood is readily available from specialty lumber dealers, but I have another suggestion- Pine. You should be able to find this locally as construction lumber. If you are scratch building a 36” long model you must have a well equipped workshop. Go to your local lumberyard and sort through the pile of 1” lumber, looking for straight grained stock. It doesn’t have to be knot free as you will be sawing it up. Pine is harder than basswood, but not too hard to be easily worked.

I don’t know how well pine bends, but if you can find some Spruce, it bends well. It is lighter than pine.

These overlooked native softwoods can be used to build nice models.

Roger
I do appreciate your response: Yes I have been considering pine, But was unsure as to how well it lends itself to bending, could try some as a test.
I do have some walnut, Alder, and Mahogany...also have a piece 1 x 8 x 72 Maple - might be able to saw enough material out of that for
at least 1 model.....I have used paint stir sticks for making frames~ Thank You
 
A warm welcome to SoS to you!!
The subject of bamboo planking came up here at SoS recently and may give you some guidance. Bamboo is great for some things, but the consensus is that bamboo for planking is not a good choice for most builders. Do a search of "bamboo" in the Advanced Search box and it will bring up the string of comments.
Allan
Allan
Thank You for the warm welcome!
 
As I am New to this forum, not to sure what to expect...As my 1st Concern, regarding model boats,
Is it possible to use 1/16 x 1/4 bamboo for planking? I am currently beginning a new project, 36 inch
model of a West Coast Troller/Halibut Boat Similar to something as included photo...Thanks for Advise in advance


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I've used the bamboo that came with the Sovereign of the Seas partworks kit by Deagostini a few years ago. Although it had a small radius on its edges I found that the bamboo bent very in both planes easily compared to other timbers and held todether well using titebond glue. When the final sanding was done there were no radius visible and the finish was so good the hull didn't really need the second layer of 0.5mm planking although I did use it as it to save me filling the pin holes from holding the planks. It machines well too and is easy to work with tools if they're sharp. I know there will be a lot of you that will disagree me on the use of bamboo for planking but I'm just giving my opinion on the subject. Regards
 
Personally, I think what you look for in wood characteristics for the first layer of a two layer hull planking is something that's relatively soft and pliable. Hence the references to things like basswood, lime, and pine. I would avoid hardwoods for a first layer because of their stiffness... and the amount of work you need to put into sanding them to obtain a good hull shape so you can apply that much thinner veneer layer of planking over it. Now for stiffness, with a planking iron and/or steaming, you can bend pretty much anything. But it's that second bit... the sanding to get a smooth hull that becomes the challenge you want to avoid. So make life easier for yourself and go with a softwood option.

As for other items like wood that can be shaped into deck structures, masts, etc. you'll find that Home Depot carries poplar planks (small planks) in a variety of sizes and are for the most part, completely knot free. Again, because of hardness, I wouldn't use this for hull planking. I suspect Lowes and others carry similar product, I simply haven't looked there as much. Also, if you have any local hobby shops, they'll sell sheet and dowel stock... but at a premium. However, if you're needing some block balsa for forming bow and stern sections, the hobby shop is a good source for that. You'll also be amazed at how much wood stock Amazon sells as well... though with them you always have to be careful as the ad photos are often depicting material far superior to what you'll actually receive.

Hope this helps a bit...

Best regards from YYC.
 
I do appreciate your response: Yes I have been considering pine, But was unsure as to how well it lends itself to bending, could try some as a test.
I do have some walnut, Alder, and Mahogany...also have a piece 1 x 8 x 72 Maple - might be able to saw enough material out of that for
at least 1 model.....I have used paint stir sticks for making frames~ Thank You
I built my first scratch model (see link for Serapis in my signature) almost entirely from Alder (frames, planks, decking, etc). Only the carvings were pear.

Alder fairly fine grained, held a good edge for planking, sanded well and accepted wood oils well. See link for more characteristics. I highly recommend it for an affordable and quality option.
Alder Characteristics
 
Kit planking material suffers greatly from drying out, and as most of us point out, the quality is at the lower end as well. I have used the baterns from window venetian blinds before and old pine from second hand furniture that has been well sured by age.
My favourite though is Jelutong. It's a wood favoured by carvers and turners but if you can get longer lengths it makes very good planks. The wood is light coloured, fine grained though can be beset by small voids in cheaper cuts. The wood itself can be easily bent to shape and hols its edge and does not split when twisted. I several large blocks of it in my wood store and only cut when material required.
Aye, Kim
 
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