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first of all a warm welcome here on board of our forum.san felipe
As far as I can tell, Real Felipe was a real ship. Drawings and plans are found in a museum in Barcelona. In fact, the painting I use as an avatar is of Real Felipe. I plan on building my San Felipe kit as the Real Felipe.Was San Felipe a real ship?
Yes... and no. It has some elements of Spanish ships of the 1740's, but it may have been based on the Real Felipe, a well known ship which has no surviving historical drawings or pictures from its time. San Felipe is a fantasy ship which has filled the hole for model makers that Spanish three decker ships would have filled, but for the lack of surviving information on how they actually appeared. It's a fair representation of a Spanish three decker, but only as a rough guess. Even so, it's a beautiful looking ship.
Indeed Real Felipe was real, but for such a popular ship, the only pictures of it are paintings made years later, and all of them are quite different, and because there are no contemporary sources, we don't know what the vessel looked like. Making a model after one of the paintings is a total guess. Other builders have modified the San Felipe model with galleries from the few Spanish ships that were documented and renamed it Real Felipe. The galleries on San Felipe are unique in style as the model was developed some time in the 1950's.As far as I can tell, Real Felipe was a real ship. Drawings and plans are found in a museum in Barcelona. In fact, the painting I use as an avatar is of Real Felipe. I plan on building my San Felipe kit as the Real Felipe.
Bill
I do understand that which you are saying. However, while I agree that San Felipe is fictional, I have seen drawings made of Real Felipe from the period in question. I am skeptical of paintings of later periods, and I realize that one or two drawings is very weak evidence indeed. But it is evidence that indicates the possibility of the ship being authentic with reasonable layouts.Indeed Real Felipe was real, but for such a popular ship, the only pictures of it are paintings made years later, and all of them are quite different, and because there are no contemporary sources, we don't know what the vessel looked like. Making a model after one of the paintings is a total guess. Other builders have modified the San Felipe model with galleries from the few Spanish ships that were documented and renamed it Real Felipe. The galleries on San Felipe are unique in style as the model was developed some time in the 1950's.
Could you please post pictures of the Real Felipe which your regard as accurate? It would be helpful to those of us who wish to convert the Panart San Felipe to a reasonable representation of the Real Felipe. I have one such model.I do understand that which you are saying. However, while I agree that San Felipe is fictional, I have seen drawings made of Real Felipe from the period in question. I am skeptical of paintings of later periods, and I realize that one or two drawings is very weak evidence indeed. But it is evidence that indicates the possibility of the ship being authentic with reasonable layouts.
Bill