I think I remember these from Scouts. Left over right and right over left.
Vasa - 1:65 DeAgostini [COMPLETED BUILD]
- Thread starter dockattner
- Start date
- Watchers 145
Hi Paul,
Great work again as always and very informative discussion.
I have digged into my Van de Velde pictures for the robands and found this detailed one showing around 3 robands per sail cloth.
About the seaman in the yards definately no foot ropes, and this is half way the 17th century.
Great work again as always and very informative discussion.
I have digged into my Van de Velde pictures for the robands and found this detailed one showing around 3 robands per sail cloth.
About the seaman in the yards definately no foot ropes, and this is half way the 17th century.
- Joined
- Aug 8, 2019
- Messages
- 4,099
- Points
- 688
These picture have a lot of information. I like them.
- Joined
- Aug 8, 2019
- Messages
- 4,099
- Points
- 688
Interresting details is the leechlines, the blocks are attached to the rope of the lift on the yard.
These grisailles are so extremely detailed and Van de Velde being a son of an inland water way sailing family was very well informed about all these tiny details.
I didn't notice the leech line blocks but indeed very well noted and interesting detail.
Just to avoid anyone getting confused, the line which those leech blocks are attached to that hauls up the yardarm is not a lift line, it’s a tie. The lift lines support the outer ends of the yard, and go from there to blocks tied to either below the top or on the masthead, depending on the ship’s nationality, then run down to the deck to belaying points.
Lost in translation 
Your Dutch will always be 1,000 times better than mine, Maarten!Lost in translation
What I noted was one gasket per 2 or 3 sail clothes...
I thought the two ties went over the cap and didn’t meet till the triple block of the halyard. This looks like the ties join to a single line and must go through a sheave in the mast.
Oooh! You're getting smart Vic! There are two ties on the yards for the course sails only (main sail and fore sail). While you are correct that most Dutch built ships ran those ties over the mast cap, on the Vasa they run through sheaves mounted on the side of the mast below the trees.
On the topmasts and top gallants there is a single tie, and it passes through a sheave in the mast.
- Joined
- Aug 8, 2019
- Messages
- 4,099
- Points
- 688
These are indeed topsails. Lowered to the top
Somewhere between fore and main mast there was too much very nice beerI'm utterly lost; robands, gaskets, leech lines...
Going for a nice beer now, waiting for the dust to settle, cheers!
)) and dust still flies ))
As said we are lost in translation I guess.I'm utterly lost; robands, gaskets, leech lines...
Going for a nice beer now, waiting for the dust to settle, cheers!
- Joined
- Aug 8, 2019
- Messages
- 4,099
- Points
- 688
I'm not in keeping the names, more practical how it attached and details
We have to learn the names in order to communicate questions and answers, and you slowly learn them as you do rigging.
- Joined
- Aug 8, 2019
- Messages
- 4,099
- Points
- 688
I can tell you, learning the English names is easy. The Dutch names are a pain in the ass
- Joined
- Sep 3, 2021
- Messages
- 4,228
- Points
- 688
Not one word French in there...