Where is the Widest beam of the bluenose 2?

[ronlessor]

I am building a ROUGH replica of the Bluenose 2, from scratch, (I am lofting my own plans), using the bread and butter method for the hull. I am using the 1:48 scale (1" = 1 foot)
LOA of the Bluenose 2 was 143 ft (without the Main Boom and Bowsprit). So my model will be 35 & 3/4 inches long.

I understand the beam at its widest point was 26' 11". I will use 27 feet, (It just makes my life easier.)

My Immediate problem is, WHERE is the widest beam?

Ron

booso my model

I have lofted the plans for side view and the top view

 

[Peter Voogt]

I am building a ROUGH replica of the Bluenose 2, from scratch, (I am lofting my own plans), using the bread and butter method for the hull. I am using the 1:48 scale (1" = 1 foot)
LOA of the Bluenose 2 was 143 ft (without the Main Boom and Bowsprit). So my model will be 35 & 3/4 inches long.

I understand the beam at its widest point was 26' 11". I will use 27 feet, (It just makes my life easier.)

My Immediate problem is, WHERE is the widest beam?

Ron

booso my model

I have lofted the plans for side view and the top view

Hi Ron,
Related to the drawings of L.B. Jenson in his Saga, it's just behind the main mast:

PS: Perhaps starting a build-log? A scratch build of a Bluenose is always very interesting.
Regards, Peter

 

[ronlessor]

Thanks for your reply, Peter.

Hi Ron,
Related to the drawings of L.B. Jenson in his Saga, it's just behind the main mast:
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PS: Perhaps starting a build-log? A scratch build of a Bluenose is always very interesting.
Regards, Peter

Hi Peter
Thank you for your reply. That is roughly where I thought it migh be. From the L. B. Jenson drawing you sent me, I determined that the main mast was 2 mm in diameter. The distance from aft of the main mast to the blue mid point line is 4 mm. I understand that the main mast on the Bluenose 2 was 2 feet in diameter. So 2 mm = 2 feet, therefore 4 mm is 4 feet. Using my scale of 1/4 inch = 1 foot, my widest point of the my model will be 1 inch behind the main mast. Problem solved.

As I mentioned this will be a rough build. It will be displayed outside from spring to fall. I live in Bobcaygeon Ontario, Canada. Next to our large deck, I had built, we had an old, huge birch tree. I had it cut down but had the crew leave the stump at 6 feet tall. This is where my rough model of the Bluenose 2 will be displayed from spring to fall.

My build would be a sacrilege on this site with so many matilculously built models.

But, in case I do start a build log, how do I start one?

My build will not have the beautiful sheer of the Bluenose 2, as I am using 2 x 8 s to construct the bread and butter of the hull. So my sheer, for the time being, will be flat, unless I can come up with some way to use the railing construction to provide a curved sheer. Time will tell.

Anywas thanks for solving my problem as to the location of the widest beam.

Ron L

 

[fourseas]

Hi Ron, I agree with Peter in regards to the widest Frame. If you can get your hands on a copy of Bluenose II, Saga of the Great Fishing Schooners, by J.B. Jenson it will be a very valuable resource for your project. I scratch built a POB 1/32 model of the original Bluenose last year since it was the 100 year anniversary, and found the Jenson book very helpful for the dimensions of masts and rigging.

 

[Peter Voogt]

Thanks for your reply, Peter.

Hi Peter
Thank you for your reply. That is roughly where I thought it migh be. From the L. B. Jenson drawing you sent me, I determined that the main mast was 2 mm in diameter. The distance from aft of the main mast to the blue mid point line is 4 mm. I understand that the main mast on the Bluenose 2 was 2 feet in diameter. So 2 mm = 2 feet, therefore 4 mm is 4 feet. Using my scale of 1/4 inch = 1 foot, my widest point of the my model will be 1 inch behind the main mast. Problem solved.

As I mentioned this will be a rough build. It will be displayed outside from spring to fall. I live in Bobcaygeon Ontario, Canada. Next to our large deck, I had built, we had an old, huge birch tree. I had it cut down but had the crew leave the stump at 6 feet tall. This is where my rough model of the Bluenose 2 will be displayed from spring to fall.

My build would be a sacrilege on this site with so many matilculously built models.

But, in case I do start a build log, how do I start one?

My build will not have the beautiful sheer of the Bluenose 2, as I am using 2 x 8 s to construct the bread and butter of the hull. So my sheer, for the time being, will be flat, unless I can come up with some way to use the railing construction to provide a curved sheer. Time will tell.

Anywas thanks for solving my problem as to the location of the widest beam.

Ron L

Hi Ron,
Calculation from a posted tiny picture to measurements of the parts for your build ……….. mmmmm, that’s a challenge.
As @fourseas wrote in his reply, try to get a (second hand) copy of the Saga:

A lot of drawing and dimensions of the ‘original’ BN-II.

There where more who wanted to know how to start a build-log. See for example this post / conversation:

How to start a build log

I am really new at this type internet communication, not to modeling. Step by step would help as I am 70 and have never, ever, been accused of being smart.

shipsofscale.com

And a lot of tutorials:

https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/forums/sos-tutorials-and-videos.127/

In a build-log you can ask as much as you want, related to your build. Preferably with clarification with some photos. And a lot of member are willing to help and answer you questions.
About your quote “My build would be a sacrilege on this site with so many matilculously built models.”. No way, what you wrote about your plans, it would be ‘different’ and therefore ‘special’. A scratch build is always interesting.

PS: In the right above corner is the search-option.
And here, in post 1, you find a excel-file with almost all the different build-log’s of Bluenoses, from all kind of kits, from the Original as well as the BN-II.

List of BN-kits.

Hallo, From the PAYMENT AND ORDERING thread of @Heinrich, I have put together an excel-sheet with an overview of all sent BN kits. With the columns: A: Number of the kit B: SoS username C: First Name D: Country E: Build-log hyperlink F: Sequence number of BN-Build logs G: Date of starting the...

shipsofscale.com

When you start one, I’ll ad you on that list.
Regards, Peter

 

[Uwek]

also from my side a warm welcome here on board of our forum
related to the Bluenose you are in the best hands - we have a lot of specialists

 

[pianoforte]

Welcome aboard

 

[Uwek]

I am building a ROUGH replica of the Bluenose 2, from scratch, (I am lofting my own plans), using the bread and butter method for the hull. I am using the 1:48 scale (1" = 1 foot)
LOA of the Bluenose 2 was 143 ft (without the Main Boom and Bowsprit). So my model will be 35 & 3/4 inches long.

I understand the beam at its widest point was 26' 11". I will use 27 feet, (It just makes my life easier.)

My Immediate problem is, WHERE is the widest beam?

Ron

booso my model

I have lofted the plans for side view and the top view

Hallo @ronlessor
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