HMS Victory Mantua 1:78 (first build) by Grant Tyler

[Heinrich]

Very nice and taut bowsprit rigging Grant. Your self-made block looks far better than the majority of factory-manufactured products!

 

[GrantTyler]

Rather not.... Finished the standing rigging on my bowsprit except for the 2nd bowsprit shroud. For my first attempt with adding in more than instructions show and making my own dead eyes I am satisfied with the outcome just need to try get the finish of my knots neater.

 

[GrantTyler]

Thanks Daniel and Heinrich.

 

[GrantTyler]

Very nice and taut bowsprit rigging Grant. Your self-made block looks far better than the majority of factory-manufactured products!

Cheers Heinrich. The pale colored single blocks I did have. Artesania product. The black dead eyes and the blocks for the forestay are my attempts. I am happy still loads to improve.

 

[dockattner]

Nice bit of work here Grant. You've got skills!

 

[GrantTyler]

Thanks Paul.

 

[Nomad]

Thanks guys. Continuing rigging the bowsprit. I added the boomkins(per kit), made the toilets from a photo (don’t know why this section of this ship is not called the “poop” deck) and made one of the dead eyes for the forestay connecting to bowsprit. I also connected the bowsprit shrouds to the hull.View attachment 271762View attachment 271763
The forestay is connected via a block more than a deadeye as shown in the instructions. For this I used a 7x4x2 mm wood drilled a 3mm hole and shaped with needle file. I served the rope to hold this as well.

Very tidy work Grant, the bowsprit is for me one of the most attractive parts of a sail ship. I think you need to add a few scratches or chips to your work though as your neatness is starting to show us up now ...
- Mark

 

[GrantTyler]

Some work on the galleries and the steps up. Made these as per the instructions (sirens not singing at moment). While planking these, I decided to plank the crowsnest as well. The framing of the galleries I decided afterwards to stain the same as my ladders ( a change from the instructions). Unfortunately this was after fitting which was nerve racking as I did not want stain on the planking of these. Successful 90%. Eish

I am not glueing the cannons in until this is finished so I get the symmetry correct. Look a little all over place at present. I’m not sure about the block used for the upper step.

 

[Heinrich]

Hi Grant. The little platforms and ladders look fantastic, but I share your doubts about the blocks as top step. But then, I know too little about how it is done on other kits of Victory to really venture an opinion.

 

[GrantTyler]

Hi Grant. The little platforms and ladders look fantastic, but I share your doubts about the blocks as top step. But then, I know too little about how it is done on other kits of Victory to really venture an opinion.

Hi Heinrich. Agreed- going to have to do some research and see what I can do. I don’t like them and I’m sure the ship architects did not just bang a block there..

 

[Heinrich]

I looked at other builds of the Mantua kit and they are all obviously the same.


This how De Agostini approaches the issue. Picture courtesy of @Jaques (Modelbouwforum).

 

[GrantTyler]

The instructions also make the stanchions here a 2x2x13. Pictures of the Victory show a carved stanchion very different. Further the for railing it is instructed to fit a brass 0.8 wire while a rope and wood handrail appears correct. I’m going to have to call my siren @dockattner. It is in these situations that I wish I had @Dean62 carving ability. Anyway I enjoy research.

 

[Jack Sparrow]

excellent job

 

[Heinrich]

But hang on - then the Mantua kit is correct! That is clearly just a block sitting on top of the "platform".

 

[GrantTyler]

Thanks Heinrich. I have said it before . It amazes me how different each kit approaches the same ship build. I think this is half the fun of this hobby finding what we each enjoy and researching and attempting to make something closer.

 

[GrantTyler]

But hang on - then the Mantua kit is correct! That is clearly just a block sitting on top of the "platform".

It does appear so Just looked out of place initially.

 

[dockattner]

Maybe it is just a block but I think it would look better with a 'tread' on it with a bit of overhang. Might need to sand down the 4x4 to allow for the additional height. I would use the thinnest strip veneer you have (0.5 - 0.7 mm max).

This is what the sirens sound like...

 

[GrantTyler]

Maybe it is just a block but I think it would look better with a 'tread' on it with a bit of overhang. Might need to sand down the 4x4 to allow for the additional height. I would use the thinnest strip veneer you have (0.5 - 0.7 mm max).

This is what the sirens sound like...

Sounds great

 

[Dean62]

Maybe it is just a block but I think it would look better with a 'tread' on it with a bit of overhang. Might need to sand down the 4x4 to allow for the additional height. I would use the thinnest strip veneer you have (0.5 - 0.7 mm max).

This is what the sirens sound like...

I suspect the 4x4 block was a simple approach at a single step without using a frame. Furthermore, an overhang would most likely be a tripping hazard… as it’s more likely you would catch your foot on it, as ships at sea tend to move around a lot. But if Grant wants use use artistic license, I’m sure no one would object!

 

[GrantTyler]

Good thinking Dean. Here are two models a Deagostini and Caldercraft from two guys on Pinterest who are making a stunning Victory. I must say on researching this Caldercraft produce a stunning kit very realistic. Doesn’t let your artistic license come out too often tho. I sometimes wonder which is more fun.


I’m going to add a 0.5mm deck plank to my blocks and then play with my stanchion making. We are delving into Grants poor skill sets here.