HMS Victory Mantua 1:78 (first build) by Grant Tyler
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Hi Heinrich....Hoping so. Cheers
Good afternoon. I rigged the driver gaff throat halyard and the Mizzen top gallant yard blocks.
I had to make the eyelets from copper wire and blacken these. Use long nose pliers and shaped around a 1mm drill bit.
Rigging the block I first made a loop through the eyelet also around a 1mm drill bit and tied a over/under knot-small/tiny drop of CA.
Then with (another Grant crazy- long nose pliers with a clamp over to use as a third hand- Daniel and Paul I have order surgical clamp
) I pulled the two parts of thread over block , tied over/under knot and again small dab of CA.
This method has turned out better (in my opinion) than when I seized the blocks. I will use it going forward.
I had to make the eyelets from copper wire and blacken these. Use long nose pliers and shaped around a 1mm drill bit.
Rigging the block I first made a loop through the eyelet also around a 1mm drill bit and tied a over/under knot-small/tiny drop of CA.
Then with (another Grant crazy- long nose pliers with a clamp over to use as a third hand- Daniel and Paul I have order surgical clamp
) I pulled the two parts of thread over block , tied over/under knot and again small dab of CA.This method has turned out better (in my opinion) than when I seized the blocks. I will use it going forward.
After taking the below picture I decided to replace all my blocks. My ship needs all the help it can get so ordered a full new set. I just don’t like them. They are also too square for the Victory. See picture of Portsmouth Victory.
When replacing the Jeer blocks I will serve the line from the lashings it will look way better.
When replacing the Jeer blocks I will serve the line from the lashings it will look way better.
Sorry to bore you guys
... in the above photos the blocks on the cap are seized and the ones on the mast and using eyelets are rigged as mentioned above- for comparison- I think they look better? Gonna make loads of eyelet
..... and now they all come off.
... in the above photos the blocks on the cap are seized and the ones on the mast and using eyelets are rigged as mentioned above- for comparison- I think they look better? Gonna make loads of eyelet..... and now they all come off.
Loads of eyelets and metal fiddleys from my HMS FlySorry to bore you guys
Never boring Grant. Just calling it a learning experienceSorry to bore you guys
Great rigging Daniel. I do like the hooks and metal to the top dead eye strop. Boy I can’t remake everything and I think those would be beyond my skill level. These British ships
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Cheers Ron.... true story re the learning.
I'll throw in a splash of support for the decision to replace the blocks. While it will require some reworking (and some expense and time) the rest of your build is SO GOOD and the kit blocks are SO BAD that its almost painful to see them hanging there. Especially if your rigging will be cleaner (no sails and no rigging for sails) the blocks will be visible and noteworthy. Of course the sirens agree 
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I agree with Paul @dockattner, I will never use kit supplied blocks again. Your ship is awesome!
Hello Paul. Thank you. Your support and opinions are always valued. As for the rigging sirens they have taken me deep under and at times I think I am drowning. Loving it tho. CheersI'll throw in a splash of support for the decision to replace the blocks. While it will require some reworking (and some expense and time) the rest of your build is SO GOOD and the kit blocks are SO BAD that its almost painful to see them hanging there. Especially if your rigging will be cleaner (no sails and no rigging for sails) the blocks will be visible and noteworthy. Of course the sirens agree
Hello Daniel. Thanks, your encouragement takes me out of those dark model building moments. Yep having no basis of comparison, when I opened the kit I thought the blocks where great. The builds here on SOS changed so much for me as I built the Victory , mostly for good (the challenge, self improvement, learning (so much), humbling etc, etc) and at times my self criticism and expectations can be too harsh. Non the less I am having fun - loads of it. Cheers
Hey Grant, I suspect most of us modelers have those 'dark model building moments' Ha! I know I sure do.
Difference between pulley blocks from kits and those from Dry-Dock Models.
Grant, with increasing experience and ambition, you want better wood and much more for your model. In the beginning, you build a model in one to two years. With increasing care and demands, the build time lenghtens considerably, but is also much more satisfying. There are very nicely built models with parts from kits. If you stay true to this hobby, you will eventually build almost everything yourself and use the best accessories available today.
Replacing the pulley blocks is a good decision and further increases the quality of your beautiful Victory build.
Have a nice weekend
Thomas
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Good morning and thank you Thomas.
Good day everyone from a super hot Melkbosstrand 37•C. I decided to give the Hammocks another go. @Alexander74 and @Thomas Marocke have shown that these are folded vertically, however I’m going to use a my builder license and go Horizontal.
Some pics and research I have personally done:
They are wrapped and shaped like a maggot.
Common and agreed readings show they are stored in the netting on British ships for all the reasons discussed previously. Initially to keep them dry tar was used as a cover (problems for sure) and later a canvas cover was put over them. I believe this was post Victory operational date.
How they where stored in the netting there is no confirmed agreement, however general consensus is folded vertically as per Alexander and Thomas.
For my personal justification () a picture from a French Frigate: I cant remember her name.
I took @Heinrich suggestion for making these (previously shown). Here is the result:
I am happy with these and now need to make 180 odd.
And for some more thought: how another modeler displayed them:
Cheers
Grant
Some pics and research I have personally done:
They are wrapped and shaped like a maggot.
Common and agreed readings show they are stored in the netting on British ships for all the reasons discussed previously. Initially to keep them dry tar was used as a cover (problems for sure) and later a canvas cover was put over them. I believe this was post Victory operational date.
How they where stored in the netting there is no confirmed agreement, however general consensus is folded vertically as per Alexander and Thomas.
For my personal justification (
) a picture from a French Frigate: I cant remember her name. I took @Heinrich suggestion for making these (previously shown). Here is the result:
I am happy with these and now need to make 180 odd.
And for some more thought: how another modeler displayed them:
Cheers
Grant
Grant, hi. The last photo shows the drying of hammocks and sails. You can show it like this. On a French frigate (this is a modern replica), nothing like the historical truth. The method of laying hammocks that I wrote to you and showed in the photo by @Thomas Marocke is closer to historical truth.
Personally, when building a model of a ship, I try to get closer to historical accuracy and look for certain nuances in documents or books, read the Internet and various specialized forums, consult my colleagues. It's just that I'm interested in diving into the history of the construction of the ship of that period. It is up to you to decide how to lay the hammocks. You are the captain.
Personally, when building a model of a ship, I try to get closer to historical accuracy and look for certain nuances in documents or books, read the Internet and various specialized forums, consult my colleagues. It's just that I'm interested in diving into the history of the construction of the ship of that period. It is up to you to decide how to lay the hammocks. You are the captain.
Thank you Sasha. I appreciate your knowledge and your feedback appreciated. I think my next model which will smaller and more simple I would like to research, buy books related thereto etc and go more historically accurate. Cheers