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steven

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Started a few months ago in a Latina 1805 Pilot Boat. The main reason I chose this kit because i am new to this hobby.
I am just starting to do the rigging and to be blunt the size of the holes in the blocks and such are too small to thread. Am I missing something here? Or these just cheesy parts so they can say it' included in the kit? I tried bees wax to no avail.
Should I throw these pieces away and just buy better rigging parts.
If so, where would you recommend?
Also wrapping these blocks with wire look hideous and I will not do that.
Any advice will surely be appreciated.
 
steven said:
Avviato qualche mese fa su Imbarcazione Pilota Latina 1805. Il motivo principale per cui ho scelto questo kit perché sono nuovo in questo hobby.
Sto appena iniziando a fare il rigging e ad essere smussato le dimensioni dei fori nei blocchi e simili sono troppo piccoli per essere filettati. Mi sto perdendo qualcosa qui? O queste solo parti scadenti in modo che possano dire che è incluso nel kit? Ho provato la cera d'api inutilmente.
Dovrei buttare via questi pezzi e comprare solo parti di rigging migliori.
Se si, dove mi consiglieresti?
Anche avvolgere questi blocchi con il filo sembra orribile e non lo farò.
Qualsiasi consiglio sarà sicuramente apprezzato.
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Buona sera Steven, per postare qualche immagine?Vorrei aiturti
 
Hi Steven!

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A few tools needed.

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The blocks have a hole from 0,6 to 0,7 mm and are plugged with wooden residues. Therefore, first pierce them with a needle.

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With a small number of blocks, you can round off the edges a little even with small files and a block will look more pleasant. The lower two have been revised.

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Ropes are glued to the frayed ends and allowed to dry. then cut diagonally on an old wooden board with a sharp blade. And now they can be guided through the hole.

All in all, nice practice work. The other way is new blocks and new rope (but for starters?).

Best regards
Thomas
 
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Great advice! I'm about to start rigging on my first build and I agree with Steven, the holes in the blocks look awfully small.
 
yes, sometimes you have to use like a tiny drill bit to clean the holes out a little or use the idea that was already posted. I am surprised the beeswax is not helping. I know that some sell beeswax, but really it is nothing more than just candle wax. I usually buy mine from amazon. The bars are about 3 inches x 1 x 1 and have beeswax stamped or embossed on it. After about 5 runs of that on your line should make the line stiff. But, the problem now days is that a lot of kits are now using that nylon or polyester line of which i hate. All line should be cotton. However, the ONLY up side of the nylon or polyester is that it does not fray or have fuzzies as we call them. The needle threader like you say is the best little tool for this to push the threader through the hole and then pull the line through.
I hope you success on this. Keep us updated.
 
You might also try getting a set of mini drill bits for a pin vise drill. www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk Has the Microbox drill bit set, you can also get them on amazon. I use them to drill out every block before rigging. For example, if my rigging line is 0.5mm I use the 0.55mm or 0.6mm drill
 
BenD said:
You might also try getting a set of mini drill bits for a pin vise drill. www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk Has the Microbox drill bit set, you can also get them on amazon. I use them to drill out every block before rigging. For example, if my rigging line is 0.5mm I use the 0.55mm or 0.6mm drill
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Good afternoon, this is the tool I use to calibrate holes, a set of reamers

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I use these dental "floss pullers" from the drug store. You get a dozen in a $3.00 package. I like the long tail, especially if the blocks are already on a yard or mast. That "tail" gives me more room to manipulate. But before using them I'll normally ream out the blocks with a reamer or a drill, and I'll do that prior to mounting them on spars.
 
I use micro drills of the right size to drill out the holes of blocks that are difficult to thread. Slightly enlarged holes do not detract from the use of the block. I also have a set of micro reamers that I prefer if the holes simply need to be cleaned of debris. I use the sewing needle threaders to pull lines thru…but you will probably need to enlarge the holes to use this technique successfully with either a micro drill or a reamer since you are essentially pulling a double layer of thread thru the very small hole. I do not fuss with stubborn threading of blocks…drill out or ream the holes and move on…
 
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The best needle I have found is the line itself. Apply some CA glue to the end of the line and wipe off the excess and form a hard, straight end by running the end of the line between your thumb and forefinger, then trim the very end at a very sharp angle with a sharp scissors to make a sharp point. The line itself is now stiff enough to use as a needle and passes easily through the block. If working with small 2mm blocks, use a .5mm drill bit in your Archimedes drill or pin holder to carefully drill out the hole(s) in your block, being careful not to split the block. That makes passes line through the block a lot easier.
 
steven said:
Thanks Thomas
To me, the rigging makes the ship, and I want to learn that part well.
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It was the best relaxing time. I have completed - both standing and running rigging- and agree totally with Donni about cleaning the holes a bit. Vox I never used.. a tip is to add a little fast glue just at the beginning and mold it with your finger.
In some cases, you can use a very fine drill. Nobody can see it.
 
I use a micro drill bit a little bigger than the hole with a pin vice. This works great for me. I then put a small amount of CA glue on the tip of the rope and give it a little twist to make the tip into a point. If it's a block that is already tied to the ship, then I use a needle threader, as already discussed.

Note: not too much CA as it will cause the rope to get brittle.
 
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