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Actual Event: Seven people missing following 56m yacht - Bayesian - sinking in Palermo

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Seven people missing following 56m yacht sinking in Palermo, Italy​


The 56-metre Perini Navi sailing yacht Bayesian has sunk off the coast of Palermo, Italy, with 22 people onboard and seven people still missing.

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Local news reports state that Bayesian sank around 5:00 due to a storm in a stretch of sea close to Porticello in the province of Palermo. Emergency services were deployed, with 15 people rescued, including a one-year-old child who was taken to the Children’s Hospital in Palermo.

According to online news broadcaster La Sicilia, the search is currently underway for the yacht’s chef, as well as four British guests, a Canadian and two Americans, who are still missing. Divers and a helicopter are continuing to search, alongside the coast guard and local firefighters.



Bayesian is a sailing yacht with an overall length of 55,9 m. The yacht's builder is Perini Navi from Italy, who launched Bayesian in 2008. The superyacht has a beam of 11,51 m, a draught of 9,73 m and a volume of 473 GT.


 
Mike Lynch - nominally owner of the yacht and his daughter are both missing presumed drowned. It is sad and Ironic that Mr Lynch and his business partner have spent 10 years fighting a court case in the USA, facing up to 25 years in jail. They were - against the odds - cleared a month or so back and returned to the UK. Now Mike has drowned at sea, and his co-defendant and business partner was knocked down and killed by a car in the UK on Sunday.
 

Seven people missing following 56m yacht sinking in Palermo, Italy​


The 56-metre Perini Navi sailing yacht Bayesian has sunk off the coast of Palermo, Italy, with 22 people onboard and seven people still missing.

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Local news reports state that Bayesian sank around 5:00 due to a storm in a stretch of sea close to Porticello in the province of Palermo. Emergency services were deployed, with 15 people rescued, including a one-year-old child who was taken to the Children’s Hospital in Palermo.

According to online news broadcaster La Sicilia, the search is currently underway for the yacht’s chef, as well as four British guests, a Canadian and two Americans, who are still missing. Divers and a helicopter are continuing to search, alongside the coast guard and local firefighters.



Bayesian is a sailing yacht with an overall length of 55,9 m. The yacht's builder is Perini Navi from Italy, who launched Bayesian in 2008. The superyacht has a beam of 11,51 m, a draught of 9,73 m and a volume of 473 GT.


Has anyone ever noticed that whenever something is on the news that you know something about or is in your area of expertise it’s wrong or misleading? It can only lead to one conclusion . Take news with a grain of salt
 
I would be surprised if this yacht capsized under “bare poles.” I read that the very tall (270+) mast collapsed; possible if one or more of the 5! spreaders first collapsed. If part of the collapsed mast punched a hole in hull, flooding could have sunk her.

Roger
 
The yacht had a lifting keel. With it down the draft was about 30 ft . Retracted the metacentric center moved up affecting the righting arm and reducing stability.
 
Has anyone ever noticed that whenever something is on the news that you know something about or is in your area of expertise it’s wrong or misleading? It can only lead to one conclusion . Take news with a grain of salt
Sailing yachts are a pretty esoteric topic for most of the population, journalists included. I would hardly cast aspersion on the whole profession based on the referenced article here. It may have been wrong (I have no idea), but to say it is misleading implies intentionality and I seriously doubt that was the case.
Let's mourn the loss of life and a beautiful sailing vessel and leave distrust of the media for other forums. My 0.2
 
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i thought those sail boats were very stable, built to be ocean worthy. it seems suspicious it sank in relative mild conditions. is it possible it hit something under the surface causing it to sink so quickly?
 
i thought those sail boats were very stable, built to be ocean worthy. it seems suspicious it sank in relative mild conditions. is it possible it hit something under the surface causing it to sink so quickly?
I think this should be classified as an act of god. Not mild conditions . Maybe they got hit by wind up to 200 mph. They will try to blame the captain although im sure that in the small world of big time yacht captains he is well respected. Did you know that a captain can be charged with manslaughter for simple negligence (the only person on the planet) not gross negligence just anything. A little empathy please…his life is ruined
 
I think this should be classified as an act of god. Not mild conditions . Maybe they got hit by wind up to 200 mph. They will try to blame the captain although im sure that in the small world of big time yacht captains he is well respected. Did you know that a captain can be charged with manslaughter for simple negligence (the only person on the planet) not gross negligence just anything. A little empathy please…his life is ruined
i dont understand your outrage. i merely sugested a possible cause for the accident... not blame.

a ship this size can endure almost anything you can throw at it... its certainly not a rowboat. ocean storms are treacherous compared to this fast moving storm at anchor with no sails up on the lee side of the island. yes anything is possible and there may have been an obstruction just under the surface within his anchor circle... possible?

where i sail, in the long island sound, there are many under surface obstructions... huge islands just inches under the surface. surrounding water may be 80' but steer just shy of these obstructions will tear your hull out without mercy. its a very common occorance despite charts n electronic.

the fast moving storm probably came up without warning n had the ship by the nose n sent her for a spin. some of the craziest things can happen on the water. the article i read said they anchored on the lee side of the island.


it has nothing to do with negligence on anyone's part. the captain has enough to haunt him, let alone being subjected to blame even if the inquiry shows otherwise.

besides, lets not blame god either.
 
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I understand that many superyachts (sail and power) incorporate design features that render them potentially unseaworthy in extreme conditions. For example those huge hinged openings near the waterline that fold out to create swimming platforms and boat landings, and huge glazed window and door openings. These features are only possible from an insurance point of view if they can all be secured against heavy seas by the crew, for example portable aluminium closures that would be secured by the crew to protect large windows. If it was considered that the weather forecast did not suggest extreme conditions (bearing in mind that the vessel was at anchor) it may have been decided not to secure the vessel while the guests were enjoying their cruise. In which case it may have been a freak weather event that led to the tragedy. I believe the latest reports from the police suggest that the vessel started sinking by the stern before she rolled over.
 
blame.

a ship this size can endure almost anything you can throw at it... its certainly not a rowboat. ocean

Aparently it was hit by a water spout and normal procedure is to have the vessel face the wind and all hatches and windows closed but unfortunately non of this was done. The yacht heeled over and it took on vast amounts of water rapidly which caused it to sink stern first then to rapidly turn onto its side. It was stated all the windows and hatches were open because of the heat and also the captain was responsible for keeping a check on weather charts which would have alerted him of the approaching storm which appears he did not do. All this could have been avoided if the proper procedures had been adhered too the experts are now saying.
 
In today’s weekend Wall Street Journal there is an article summing up Bayesian’s sinking. Unfortunately it was not written by anyone with knowledge of naval architecture but there are a few interesting tidbits of information.

First Porticello, off which she anchored is primarily a fishing port. Commercial fishermen either understand local weather or die young. Bad weather was forecasted early enough that the fishing fleet decided to “wait out weather” by remaining in port.

A boat moored by one anchor will automatically swing into the wind. The SV Robert Baden Powell moored nearby found it necessary to start its engine during the storm to keep her pointed into the wind.

Both moored vessels apparently dragged their anchors.

This limited evidence would point to wind rapidly changing direction. This would imply cyclonic nature such as a waterspout. By maritime tradition and law a professional master of a ship is totally responsible for its safety. It can, therefore, be assumed that Bayesian’s professional captain with access to state of the art weather forecasting technology would have known that some sort of foul weather was predicted but he might not have understood its local effects as well as the fishermen. Unfortunately the vessel’s owner was also aboard hosting guests. Orders by the captain to secure the vessel to withstand bad weather might have been overruled by the owner concerned about the comfort of his guests, leaving her vulnerable to flooding via open windows and air ports.

Roger
 
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