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Shipyard HMS Rattlesnake 1776 Scale 1:72

So let's make it a little bit more complicated:
Rattlesnake was one of four naval cutters of the Alert class (Alert, Rattlesnake, Pigmy and Cockatrice).
The cutter was build in 1777. In the RMG exist the design drawings for Alert and Rattlesnke (ZAZ 7910, lines and profile; ZAZ 7911, deck). There is also an as built drawing of Rattlesnake available (ZAZ 6773, line and profile).
For another cutter with the name Alert exist an painting by George Marschall from 1755 (following the information of the Science museum). which has a lot of similiarities with the Alert class from 1777. The main difference is the number of deadeyes (5 in the painting, 4 in the drawings). This is in my opinion the best hint that the dates for the painting is correct. On the original drawings someone makes some entries about the 5th deadeye. This is in my opion not contemporary. The adadmirality uses another way tho show changes in the design. I think that someone has showed the fith deadeye of the Marshall painting. There are some other entries in the original plan visible, which I could not read until now.
The most popular documentation of the Alert is the AotS of Goodwin. He mixed the information of the painting and the drawings, which is in my opinion simply wrong. I cound not find any other cutter drawing of that or a later period with 5 deadeyes. Only older cutters show this detail.

Back to the models:
Vanguard models: The model is a model of the cutter shown in the Marshall painting
Shipyard (paper): The model shows the cutter from 1777 with the older decorations of the Marshall painting. The original ship did not have such decorations by an Admirality order.
Shipyard (timber): Following my first imprssion the model shows the cutter from 1777. If you like to build it with the decoations or not is on you

If you call the model Alert, Rattlesnake or after one of the other ships of the class does not matter because we have only a little information about the class. Alert is the most popular ship of the class because it had the most success.

@Submarinerblue
You build a really wonderful model from the paper kit.
 
This kit is utilizing newer technology than the old Spanish and Italian kits we have seen since the 1970's. Like Mamoli, this company is relying on laser engraving to add more detail to their parts, and omitting metal castings of the past. Mamoli has some parts, such as transom carvings, detailed with laser, but this new HMS Rattlesnake kit uses laser cutting and detailing on a much wider scale. As long as the wood quality is still good, e.g. fine hardwood vs. coarse grained basswood, the appearance of the model will still appear clean, the wood will look good when stained, and hull painting will not be absolutely necessary.
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The kit actually resembles the cheap $15 Chinese Halcon and Harvey kits in this respect. The kit is simplified so that a builder does not have to plank the deck, and plank lines on other parts are simulated as well. This makes the kit simpler to build, especially for beginners. A laser engraved deck doesn't look the same as a strip planked one, but it doesn't look bad either.
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Deck fittings such as the booby hatches and gratings using laser cutting and detailing benefit the builder by simplifying these parts while providing some trim details without using micro-strips of wood or carving. The parts are precision cut, removing lots of sanding for shaping and fitting, and promoting quick assembly. All that is needed is edge cleanup to remove char. Etched parts add detail without burdening the builder as well. More work on this kit was devoted to the design of the laser cut parts in that instead of simple wood strips being provided for hull planking, pre-spiled, curved strips have been cut, greatly simplifying the scary task of planking the hull for beginners.
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Some of the shortcuts on using all laser cut wood are shared with the Chinese Halcon kit, which reduces the appearance of some parts. Take the anchors, for example. they are not cast metal, but laser cut wood, and their appearance is not quite as good. The bolting on the anchor stocks appears the same as the trenails on the deck. All of these details can be improved upon easily with replacement parts and some basic scratch building techniques.
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All this forethought and effort into designing the laser detailing and shaping the parts makes the kit very inexpensive to produce, and reduces the amount of different types of materials which are included in the kit. The builder spends much less time crafting smaller parts for details, and more time assembling. As long as the instructions are detailed and step-by-step, a kit like this is great for beginners. It's a far cry from Corel kits which are made for experienced craftsman, and provide plans and a pile of basically shaped wood blocks and golden castings. Those old kits rely on skill of the builder to add details and fit the parts together, and they are not suitable for beginners which have no experience shaping wood with hand tools.
 
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Problem is that manufacturers are only going to produce what is going to sell well. and I would imagine that compared to plastic models that area is not very large
I come from plastic modelling and all manufacturers produce the well known planes i.e Spitfire, Mustang, Phantom etc.
I got shot down when I dared to say not another **** Spitfire when Kotare, founded by ex Wingnut Wings employees, announced their first model.
I was told that mark of Spit wasn't available in that scale etc.
I can't blame the makers of course but sometimes think one of them should grow a pair and produce something really unusual. You never know it might sell well because it's unusual!
I still have a stash of unbuilt kits but have really lost my mojo for building them, hence why I'm having a go a wooden ship modelling and so far I love it.
Still lets wait and see what they announce.
Regards 'n' all that, Mark
 
Got an email from ModelExpo. Rattlesnake. Nice looking model. Haven't seen the name Shipyard Wooden Models before. Anyone familiar with them?

https://modelexpo-online.com/shipyard-hms-rattlesnake-1776-scale-172.html
I am currently working on the Rattlesnake from Model Expo. Bought the kit several years ago. Your picture looks like a simpler model of Rattlesnake. The kit I have is almost more than I can handle. Thought it was rated as entry level to moderate. The only early part was opening the box. I am having to simplify the rigging plans to my level. Been working on it a couple of years. Can only do a little at a time. It has been fun. I am going to try an attach a picture. Was given a reference to model being built by one of our members.
Jack

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The model shows the stern chaser carriages on slides rather than wheels. Is this accurate?

Unlike the Shipyard’s paper version of Alert, this model does not show a binnacle or space for one. This is a pet peeve of mine. Without a binnacle and compass how does the helmsman maintain a course? GPS or Google Maps maybe?
 
this model does not show a binnacle or space for one.
It may be the photo but it looks like there is room for a binnacle abaft the mizzen mast. The binnacle was to be within sight of the helmsman, but the binnacle box that held the lamp and two compasses in the 18th century was held down with rope ties as it was not a permanent structure and would not necessarily be in place unless under sail.
Allan
 
Just adding to the conversation, the Shipyard -Vessel is the HMS Rattlesnake, a British ship, while ours is an American Privateer.
We are concentrating efforts on our own kits, trying to have a new kit every month. But when Marc Mosko, my boss, saw this HMS Rattlesnake kit, he was so impressed that he thought would be nice to offer it to the American modelers.
 
Hello. Just completed the MS sternwheeler CHAPERON. Looking for a new build. Saw your comment on Shipyard Rattlesnake. Fairly new to deadeyes and ratlines. Do you think this build would be a good candidate for an intermediate builder. What have you heard. Thanks, Rick Walter, Davidson NC
 
The only thing I’ve heard about it is that it is “Out of Stock” both at Model Expo and at Shipyard, the manufacturer. Not sure how you can list a “New Product “ that is unavailable for purchase and has no availability date. Has it ever been “In Stock” anywhere? I doubt it . Why not just list it as “Future New Product” or wait to place it on your site until it is available?
 
The only thing I’ve heard about it is that it is “Out of Stock” both at Model Expo and at Shipyard, the manufacturer. Not sure how you can list a “New Product “ that is unavailable for purchase and has no availability date. Has it ever been “In Stock” anywhere? I doubt it . Why not just list it as “Future New Product” or wait to place it on your site until it is available?
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