Prins willem 1651

[efraimrofiz]

Thank you very much for the help. The fact that the model in the museum is a pool model makes so much difference. The construction method now is complicated but well-known and very possible to build

 

[FrankL514]

I purchased Corel's Prins Willem a while ago. When I opened the box, I was hugely disappointed in the instructions. 2 pages of run on English instructions. While the materials are fine those instructions were absolutely horrible and made very little sense to me. I do not have the experience to tackle this model. I probably will have to resell it in the near future. I even was text chatting with John Aliprantis about this model and his words were, it is going to be a very difficult experience.

 

[DARIVS ARCHITECTVS]

I purchased Corel's Prins Willem a while ago. When I opened the box, I was hugely disappointed in the instructions. 2 pages of run on English instructions. While the materials are fine those instructions were absolutely horrible and made very little sense to me. I do not have the experience to tackle this model. I probably will have to resell it in the near future. I even was text chatting with John Aliprantis about this model and his words were, it is going to be a very difficult experience.

I have Corel's Prins Willem and have built and bashed Corel's La Couronne. The instructions are, well, not there. The kits were made for experienced modelers capable of scratch building to get the best out of them. The blocks of wood used to make shapes for the counter and galleries basically need full shaping, which scratch builders are used to doing, but inexperienced modelers not used to shaping wood accurately will find pretty scary. It takes practice, but the knowhow comes pretty fast. One of the things that makes Corel good is the quality wood. The drawings are good, and you basically assemble the hull using those, and the guidance in the text instructions comes to a sudden stop when you get to the rigging. You have to figure out the sequence of rigging the lines so you don't create obstacles for other steps further down the line. The small scale at 1:100 makes it harder to access because of tight working space. If you are encountering trouble with the Prins Willem kit, just set it aside until you're up to that level, and get experience fast buy building a starter model like Artsania Latina's San Francisco II or Amati's Lady Nelson. They are light on the rigging and simpler in hull construction.

 

[Maarten]

What sort of changes would a floating model require? Is there some sort of shape change required to compensate for a property of scale, such as water density or surface tension?

Hi Kurt,

What I understood is there was a false keel installed in the past which mist probably contained a high weight to ballast it. But at least it wasn't build as a dockyard model or has a scientific back ground.

 

[Steef66]

I purchased Corel's Prins Willem a while ago. When I opened the box, I was hugely disappointed in the instructions. 2 pages of run on English instructions. While the materials are fine those instructions were absolutely horrible and made very little sense to me. I do not have the experience to tackle this model. I probably will have to resell it in the near future. I even was text chatting with John Aliprantis about this model and his words were, it is going to be a very difficult experience.

You're not the first. The Coral kit is almost number one on the second hand market. All half build.

 

[Steef66]

Actually we don't have a clue how the real one was build. That's the fun of Dutch shipbuilding. You can't do it wrong. It was an unique ship and only the model is what left. You have to make a choice, are you gonna rebuild the model from the book or do you want to do a lot of research to find out how the ship possible had look. And how you gonna build it. Bulkheads or frames or like the Dutch? The only thing I can say is, you will have a lot of fun.

 

[frankieg]

Hello,I contacted the rijsmuseum and it seems they also have no information about the method used to build the Prins Willem.. But a professor told me that there were more than two traditional Dutch construction methods that used to built the ships, so you are right that the information about the ship has really been lost. The question is if I build a model of the ship according to the method we know, will it be an authentic and historical model? Or a completely unhistorical imitation that is just for beauty...

The Rijksmuseum has no information? There was a replica built, that went up in flames some years ago, I don't understand why there isn't information available if they built a replica? Just my 2 cents. cheers

 

[Steef66]

The Rijksmuseum has no information? There was a replica built, that went up in flames some years ago, I don't understand why there isn't information available if they built a replica? Just my 2 cents. cheers

That was a steel bathtub with a wooden construction on top. A look a like for a amusement Park.

 

[frankieg]

That was a steel bathtub with a wooden construction on top. A look a like for a amusement Park.

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