The final balcon railing has been successfully glued, now, I've a precise reference point for all rear elements :
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French war-ship Fleuron 1729 - scale 1/72 - from Delacroix monograph
The supports for the first quarter-gallery are ready, and the planking of the Guard rail goes at beginning :
Not very easy, but interesting work :
A little further abour upper quarter-gallery :
A quick, clear recap, just to take a breather, before tackling the quarter-galleries: planking :
The planking of quarter-galleries is coming, but laborious, all pieces must be adjusted as well as possible :
Today small progress :
Bonus photo :
First quarter-gallery done :
2nd quarter-gallery beginning :
2nd quarter-gallery done :
Lovely work, Christian.
Hello Christian,
Very nice work. She is looking great.
Bill
Very nice work. She is looking great.
Bill
A quick draft of a cross, the final version will receive a much more careful treatment :
The more I see of the French ships, the more interested I become in building one. Do you know if there are contemporary plans like the British have in their archives for English ships? I know there are some French captures in the RMG collections, but would love to find contemporary plans from French archival sources such as the Musee de la Marine in Paris if possible. (Any excuse for us to get back to Paris would be good) Thanks for sharing your build!
Allan
Allan
I can renew the ancient windows of the Saint Philippe also scaled 1/72, and ready for use, with exactly the same size :
Hello boy,
Thanks for your post
I need to contact a friend who certainly knows the right answer to your question,
as soon as I receive their response, I'll send you a correct and usefull information
Regards,
Chris
@ Allan
My friend has soon sent his answer, he says that your request seems complicated. To obtain original plans, you have to contact the Service Historique de la Défense (SHD), which has several localisations :
VINCENNES
BREST
CHATELLERAULT
LORIENT
ROCHEFORT
CHERBOURG
TOULON
And the plans are only available for consultation on site, just like those at the National Maritime Museum, and not at Chaillot, but only in the Dugny (Le Bourget) storage rooms. And their shop doesn't sell plans
For best result, it's preferable to choose a precise ship before contacting the SHD, and to be patient, because the person which perhaps answers is generaly... much tired, never really reactive...
There are no collections in France that can be directly consulted online like those at the NMM Greenwich
So, there are two solutions :
1 - On the A.N.C.R.E. web french site, you can find monographs, many of which are now available in English and have been translated by Anthony Klouda (GB) or Gilles Korent (CAN), modelers who are well-versed in shipbuilding. Among these, is the "Bonhomme Richard" by John Paul Jones, a privateer, naval officer, and also... a well known french 64 guns war ship, named... le Fleuron
2 - Otherwise, there are the captures of plans. If a period is defined, my friend can scan a list of them, from the relevant volume of Rif Winfield's British Warships in the Age of Sail. Then, simply check the Greenwich website to see if they have the plans, which is often the case, since upon the arrival in England of captured French ships, which were sent to Deptford and analyzed from every angle, before being brought up to RN standards
If you are interested in a precise model from the "Musée de la Marine", my friend can ask directly the responsable person of the Documentary Resources department in the Collections department, if she has the original plan and if she can send a print for him
That's all, folks
Friendly,
Chris
My friend has soon sent his answer, he says that your request seems complicated. To obtain original plans, you have to contact the Service Historique de la Défense (SHD), which has several localisations :
VINCENNES
BREST
CHATELLERAULT
LORIENT
ROCHEFORT
CHERBOURG
TOULON
And the plans are only available for consultation on site, just like those at the National Maritime Museum, and not at Chaillot, but only in the Dugny (Le Bourget) storage rooms. And their shop doesn't sell plans
For best result, it's preferable to choose a precise ship before contacting the SHD, and to be patient, because the person which perhaps answers is generaly... much tired, never really reactive...
There are no collections in France that can be directly consulted online like those at the NMM Greenwich
So, there are two solutions :
1 - On the A.N.C.R.E. web french site, you can find monographs, many of which are now available in English and have been translated by Anthony Klouda (GB) or Gilles Korent (CAN), modelers who are well-versed in shipbuilding. Among these, is the "Bonhomme Richard" by John Paul Jones, a privateer, naval officer, and also... a well known french 64 guns war ship, named... le Fleuron
2 - Otherwise, there are the captures of plans. If a period is defined, my friend can scan a list of them, from the relevant volume of Rif Winfield's British Warships in the Age of Sail. Then, simply check the Greenwich website to see if they have the plans, which is often the case, since upon the arrival in England of captured French ships, which were sent to Deptford and analyzed from every angle, before being brought up to RN standards
If you are interested in a precise model from the "Musée de la Marine", my friend can ask directly the responsable person of the Documentary Resources department in the Collections department, if she has the original plan and if she can send a print for him
That's all, folks
Friendly,
Chris
Merci bien Chris! You have been very helpful!
That is a shame to have so much information that cannot be easily disseminated. I will study the ships later that you listed and send you a PM if one of these is chosen. We will be on the Mediterranean coast of France in a few weeks but will not have any opportunity to get to Paris this trip. I wish that we could.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!! Your reply is greatly appreciated!!!
For you and any member interested in a French ship, I looked through my old files and found drawings and the contract for La Couronne, detailed drawings of Royal Louis and a wealth of other information. I tried to attach it here but it is too large. If you or anyone here is interested in having this, please PM me with your email address and I will try to forward it that way.
Allan
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