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Hello,

I’ve recently joined this group to share and learn info on this hobby. Presently building a static Constructo Albatross and soon will start on a 1/24 Brig Cruiser from Steele, Chapman and Hutchison.

Cheers
Mitch
 
soon will start on a 1/24 Brig Cruiser from Steele, Chapman and Hutchison.

If your references are:

ELEMENTS AND PRACTICE OF NAVAL ARCHITECTURE TEXT 1805 STEEL,DAVID SIM COMFORT ASSOC LONDON 1977
ARCHITECTURA NAVALIS MERCATORIA 1768 CHAPMAN,F H EDWARD W SWEETMAN CO NEW YORK
TREASTISE ON NAVAL ARCHITECTURE, A 1794 HUTCHINSON,WILLIAM U S NAVAL INSTITUTE PRESS ANNAPOLIS, MD

I would question their relevance to the Cruizer 18 1797 class of brig sloops.
There were about nine different vessels with the name between 1719 and 1797.
Two books are too early and Steel does not give an identity to his brig. The two design plans before it are also not identified and the 80 gun was a design that had been long obsolete. The 40 gun frigate was also not an important one. I would question the prospect of the RN allowing out the plans for their "hot" corvette class design with 77 sisters.

There is a book that covers the details of the class:
MODELLING THE BRIG OF WAR IRENE PETREJUS,E W N V UITGEVERSMAATSCHAPPO "DE ESCH" HENGELO, HOLLAND 1970
The included plans leave much to be desired as far as the hull shape. It is not about POF at all. It is carved hull.

There are full size plans on WIKI Commons for both the design lines and the decks:
Snake_(1797)
Redwing_(1806)
Belette_(1814)
Pelican_(1812)
Sophie_(1809)
COLUMBINE_1806
BACCHUS_1813
HALCYON_1813

When I consider which vessel to spend original scratch build effort on, I consider those vessels that have monographs, never mind it being the subject of a kit to be one that is a repetitious effort and far far from unique. Given an opportunity to essay a vessel that has seldom or never been the subject of a model, I see a subject that has been more than overdone an unworthy subject, no matter its appeal otherwise. Were I doing it for pay (which I do not do) all bets are off.

Now about a 1:24 build - which is eight times the volume of a museum scale model - perhaps you should tape six pieces of cardboard into a box that will be the size of the case for the completed model. Take it around the dwelling where it will be on display and see if you can really live with it?
 
If your references are:

ELEMENTS AND PRACTICE OF NAVAL ARCHITECTURE TEXT 1805 STEEL,DAVID SIM COMFORT ASSOC LONDON 1977
ARCHITECTURA NAVALIS MERCATORIA 1768 CHAPMAN,F H EDWARD W SWEETMAN CO NEW YORK
TREASTISE ON NAVAL ARCHITECTURE, A 1794 HUTCHINSON,WILLIAM U S NAVAL INSTITUTE PRESS ANNAPOLIS, MD

I would question their relevance to the Cruizer 18 1797 class of brig sloops.
There were about nine different vessels with the name between 1719 and 1797.
Two books are too early and Steel does not give an identity to his brig. The two design plans before it are also not identified and the 80 gun was a design that had been long obsolete. The 40 gun frigate was also not an important one. I would question the prospect of the RN allowing out the plans for their "hot" corvette class design with 77 sisters.

There is a book that covers the details of the class:
MODELLING THE BRIG OF WAR IRENE PETREJUS,E W N V UITGEVERSMAATSCHAPPO "DE ESCH" HENGELO, HOLLAND 1970
The included plans leave much to be desired as far as the hull shape. It is not about POF at all. It is carved hull.

There are full size plans on WIKI Commons for both the design lines and the decks:
Snake_(1797)
Redwing_(1806)
Belette_(1814)
Pelican_(1812)
Sophie_(1809)
COLUMBINE_1806
BACCHUS_1813
HALCYON_1813

When I consider which vessel to spend original scratch build effort on, I consider those vessels that have monographs, never mind it being the subject of a kit to be one that is a repetitious effort and far far from unique. Given an opportunity to essay a vessel that has seldom or never been the subject of a model, I see a subject that has been more than overdone an unworthy subject, no matter its appeal otherwise. Were I doing it for pay (which I do not do) all bets are off.

Now about a 1:24 build - which is eight times the volume of a museum scale model - perhaps you should tape six pieces of cardboard into a box that will be the size of the case for the completed model. Take it around the dwelling where it will be on display and see if you can really live with it?
It’s a kit build.. hull is fibreglass etc.
 
It’s a kit build.. hull is fibreglass etc.
So, you are building a small canoe. It will live in your garage, sleep on something like a motorcycle trailer, until it actually takes to the water?
Sounds like fun. Still - the WIKI plans will display the deck fittings top view and side view. I have the understanding that the Snake plans will show the mast locations for the 3 masted sloop version - if that is of interest. The 3 mast version is a direct match for USN and French corvettes. Corvettes did most of the actual work during their era - the end period of the age of sail.

It would be an anachronism but later versions of this "rate" had propellers. Make it more pilot friendly when afloat.
 
So, you are building a small canoe. It will live in your garage, sleep on something like a motorcycle trailer, until it actually takes to the water?
Sounds like fun. Still - the WIKI plans will display the deck fittings top view and side view. I have the understanding that the Snake plans will show the mast locations for the 3 masted sloop version - if that is of interest. The 3 mast version is a direct match for USN and French corvettes. Corvettes did most of the actual work during their era - the end period of the age of sail.

It would be an anachronism but later versions of this "rate" had propellers. Make it more pilot friendly when afloat.
Ha.. yep, she’s a big girl. It’s actually a two masted schooner with 18 guns. Not big enough to be “rated” but still will have some presence on the water. See attached for scale.

Cheers

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Hello,

I’ve recently joined this group to share and learn info on this hobby. Presently building a static Constructo Albatross and soon will start on a 1/24 Brig Cruiser from Steele, Chapman and Hutchison.

Cheers
Mitch
Welcome aboard from a fellow Aussie. Melbourne here.


Rob
 
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