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USS Enterprise CV-6 1/200 Trumpeter

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Hello,

slowly but I am moving forward. (in my perspective I did quite a lot but we all know the reality that painting just makes it look like you did a lot :) )
So I almost finished the planes that were in the kit, they need some wash and some walk stripes on the wings for more detail
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And I went to start the PE from KA models... I admit that I got quite frustrated with them for bad instructions, but oh well... and I realized how much of a difference the Pontos have. Example: Pontos compeltely changes this part (full floor ant etc) As for KA it's only this:
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Since I can't progress with the KA instructions to know what is where and when to do the step, I started doing all the PE so I would't miss any upgrades... Also I started to install the LED

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and a big moment for me was that I painted the hull, used Ammo ATOM ocean blue color. I must admit that the coverage these paint have surprises me every time... I can paint a lot more with them than with the same amount as Tamiya or Mr. Hobby. And I like the color

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Since I started with the LED, I need to know how to route them, and for that I dry fited most of the parts to understand what would be the best approach and for the first time I saw the size and general shape of the ship... I like it... I like it a lot

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that's it for now, cheers
 
i wonder what is the reason for the metal plate on the forecastle deck between the 2 hatches & the 2 windlasses as the chains won't touch that area as they go directly between the hawse pipes & wildcats? look at Sheet 8 - Forecastle Deck in the plans i linked back in February when you started this project.
 
i wonder what is the reason for the metal plate on the forecastle deck between the 2 hatches & the 2 windlasses as the chains won't touch that area as they go directly between the hawse pipes & wildcats? look at Sheet 8 - Forecastle Deck in the plans i linked back in February when you started this project.
Hello,
To be honest I have no idea.

Anyway, I am moving forward slightly, a lot of PE... but what I wanted to show is that I am making the lights for the inside. I made the lamps from a picture I have, but the size is probably wrong, but in my opinion this is better than seeing the LED strip :) Just need to paint them.
Also if anyone wants, I uploaded the files: https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/art/scale-model-ship-lamps-for-cv-6-enterprise-1-200-trumpeter
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Holy cow!!

I want one so bad, but I already have the Titanic and USS Missouri in 200, and a couple of 350 ships on top of a ton of large airplanes...

Good job so far!
 
So it has been a while, but I decided that showing more progress is more fun :) so here goes...

I really dislike the idea of drilling holes in models and also I really wanted to test out the induction method for power up the ship
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Then I continued on with the metal for the ship, more to show than to tell :)
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Other nic nacs are also being done
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and ofcourse a ton of test fits
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Now trumpeter is being a bit of an a*hole, they made doors, and some of them are interfering with the inside structures... and some are a dead end to begin with so it had to be closed or partially closed. That is no biggie now because I found pictures that the gates were often not opened to full, so I will cut the gates to cover the inside structure and leave the inside open.
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Also I got a addon for the planes, I will try to "hang" then as they were but for that I need to cut the plane wings. I know I can buy the KA models that have folded wing option but they are too darn expensive :)
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The snakes nest of wires are being done
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another test fit
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I started the deck, it was quite tricky at first, but the tricky part was to peel off the double sided tape and not destroy the deck in doing so.
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Then came the metal parts for the deck, this took soo much time...
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Some lights inside
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I painted the deck. I really liked the natural wood color, but well I can't have that can I :)
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Another snakes nest (the final one from the kit) Everything is fine here, but I am missing a LOT in the plastic that is in the center, I will probably have to make some structure parts with my 3D printer to add light to the center...

Anyone have any pictures of the center part of the ship ceiling for some references?
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And I came back to do some antenas
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That's all for now, more to come
 
the ship's props should be counter-clockwise on portside & clockwise on starboard side.
Thanks! They are not in actually because I need to paint them and then I will remember to put them in correctly :)
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Today I went to do the radars... I was sweating buckets...

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those are the wrong radars if doing the ship as of the Battle of Midway as they are late 1943 into 1944 time period not June 1942.
 
those are the wrong radars if doing the ship as of the Battle of Midway as they are late 1943 into 1944 time period not June 1942.
I found them on the book, I could get away with it without repainting it i think, but not adding the radars would be a shame because they look really nice, but not midway anymore... Not sure what to do
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can you post all the radars you have or is it just those 2?
There are no more that are added. I just got ahead of myself and made all of them, the one that is on the side, the main one on the top and the two half oval ones in front and back of the main structure. The one I am missing is a small SC secondary air-search radar antenna that was installed on a four-legged pedestal on the top near the chimney and from photos i see it was added later in 1943 (that's what the books say)
 
read this carefully especially the dates concerning radar.
Camouflage and radar were two primary defenses of any fighting ship. Camouflage was applied with one of two aims. Low-visibility camouflage schemes served to make the ship difficult to pick out at a distance, or from specific vantages. Some schemes, for example, were most effective viewed from low angles - that is, from a submarine - others strove to foil observers in the air. Measure 1, Measure 11, and Measure 21 were all low-visibility schemes which Enterprise carried at various times in her career.
On the other hand, disruptive or "dazzle" schemes were intended to mislead the observer as to the ship's size, speed and direction of travel. A few such schemes - US and Japanese - attempted disguise a vessel as an entirely different class of ship: the Japanese carrier Zuiho, for example, had battleship turrets painted on her flight deck at the October 1944 Battle of Leyte Gulf, where she was sunk. The Measure 33/4ab scheme the Big E "wore" in 1944 was a disruptive scheme.
Camouflage and radar are complex subjects of study, radar particularly as it is a dynamic system that depends on a skillful operator and appreciative commander for maximum effect. Several useful references on these subjects are listed at the end of this page.
Camouflage
Information on Enterprise's camouflage schemes comes primarily from Snyder & Short's Ship Camouflage Website and Steve Wiper's Warship Pictorial #9: Yorktown Class Carriers. David William's Naval Camouflage 1914-1945: A Complete Visual Reference is an excellent introduction to camouflage theory and application. Color "chips" below are approximations of the actual colors, but are not completely accurate. Snyder and Short offer very accurate paint chip sets for model builders, available through The Floating Drydock.
Purpose Description
Measure 1
1941 to late March 1942 General low-visibility scheme, which also deceived as to course when viewed from the surface. Vertical Surfaces Dark Gray 5-D paint applied without pattern to all vertical surfaces. Mast and funnel tops painted in Light Gray 5-L.
Horizontal Surfaces Painted in Dark Gray 5-D, except wood decks.
Wood Decks Unpainted, except for submarines.

Dark Gray 5-D Light Gray 5-L




Measure 11
March/April 1942 to Fall 1943 Very low visibility to aerial observers, but readily visible to observers at the surface. Deceived as to course when viewed from the surface. Vertical Surfaces Sea Blue 5-S paint applied without pattern to all vertical surfaces including mast and funnel tops.
Horizontal Surfaces Deck Blue 20-B paint. On submarines and aircraft carriers, wooden decks were stained to a color corresponding to Deck Blue 20-B.
Canvas Covers Stained to a color corresponding to Deck Blue 20-B.

Sea Blue 5-S Deck Blue 20-B




Measure 21
Fall 1943 to Summer 1944
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December 1944 to Summer 1945 Very low visibility to aerial observers, but readily visible to surface observers. Like Measure 11, deceived as to course when viewed from the surface. Vertical Surfaces Navy Blue 5-N paint applied without pattern to all vertical surfaces including mast and funnel tops.
Horizontal Surfaces Deck Blue 20-B paint. On submarines and aircraft carriers, wooden decks were stained to a color corresponding to Deck Blue 20-B.
Canvas Covers Stained to a color corresponding to Deck Blue 20-B.

Navy Blue 5-N Deck Blue 20-B




Measure 33 (Variant 4AB)
Summer 1944 to December 1944 Anti-Submarine "dazzle" pattern. Note: all 34 variants of Measure 33 used the same basic color selection, but differed by pattern applied. Enterprise was the only ship painted in variant 4AB: port side view, starboard view.
Vertical Surfaces A pattern of Haze Gray 5-H, Pale Gray 5-P and Ocean Gray 5-O paint.
Horizontal Surfaces Deck Blue 20-B (Enterprise) or Deck Green 20-G paint. Flight decks were stained with Deck Blue Stain 21.
Canvas Covers Stained to a color corresponding to Deck Blue 20-B.

Haze Gray 5-H Pale Gray 5-P Ocean Gray 5-O





Radar Installations
Radar ("Radio Detection And Ranging") was a revolutionary development that eventually altered nearly every aspect of naval combat. Aircraft carriers generally employed air search and fire control radars. Air search radar probed for aircraft. While maximum range varied with the target's altitude and size, naval air search radar of the time was capable of detecting aircraft 60-100 statute miles away: sometimes more. Air search radar was often augmented with height finder radar - to determine a target's altitude - and IFF (Identification Friend or Foe) systems, an automated mechanism for distinguishing friendly aircraft from those of the enemy.
CXAM-1 Search Radar
Description: A large mattress-like antenna, the CXAM-1 was an improved version of the Navy's prototype search radar, the CXAM. Enterprise's sister ship, Yorktown CV-5 was the first US carrier fitted with radar, a CXAM. Installations of CXAM-1 sets began in late 1941, with some sets remaining in service through 1943.
Range: Capable of detecting large aircraft at 10,000 feet altitude at 70 nautical miles (80.5 statute miles), or fighters (small aircraft) at 10,000 feet altitude at 50 nautical miles (57.5 statute miles).
Accuracy: 200 yards.



SC-2 Search Radar
Description: A second-generation air search radar, the SC-2 was approximately half the size of the CXAM-1. It included an integral IFF (Identification Friend or Foe) system and limited altitude detection capabilities. An SC-2 set was installed as Enterprise's secondary search radar in late 1942, mounted on the starboard side of her funnel.
Range: Capable of detecting large aircraft at 10,000 feet altitude at 80 nautical miles (92 statute miles), or fighters at 10,000 feet altitude at 40 nautical miles (46 statute miles).
Accuracy: 100 yards.


SK Search Radar
Description: Essentially an SC-2 with a larger (CXAM-sized) antenna. Capable of detecting a medium bomber at 10,000 feet and 100 nautical miles, Enterprise's SK set was installed during her fall 1943 refit at Bremerton, Washington, replacing the CXAM-1 set, along with an SM height finder. The SC-2 secondary search radar was retained.
Range: Capable of detecting large aircraft at 10,000 feet altitude at 100 nautical miles (115 statute miles). The SM height finder, located atop and at the rear of Enterprise's tripod mast, could detect large aircraft at 10,000 feet altitude at 50 nautical miles (58 statute miles).
Accuracy: 100 yards; SM accuracy was 200 yards, or 500 feet in elevation.



Directors and Fire Control Radar
Fire (as in "gun fire") control radar was optimized to detect and track specific targets, forming a critical input to fire direction systems. Fire control directors solved the complex problem of aiming a weapon based on the target's range, speed and direction and the ship's own movement (including roll). The calculated solutions guided the aiming and firing of shipboard weapons. Typically, larger weapons - such as 5" and 40mm anti-aircraft weapons - benefited most from fire control radar, as they tended to engage their targets at long range and low rates of fire. Each of Enterprise's directors could provide range and direction data for two 5" gun groups. Following her 1943 refit, her directors could also be coupled to the quad 40mm guns to provide range data only.
John Campbell's Naval Weapons of World War Two and Norm Friedman's Naval Radar are good general references. Information regarding Enterprise's gunnery and radar systems can be found in Friedman's U.S. Aircraft Carriers: An Illustrated Design History and Steve Wiper's Warship Pictorial #9: Yorktown Class Carriers.
Mk 33 Director
Description: A power-driven fire control director, capable of obtaining firing solutions for targets moving at up to 320 knots, or 400 knots in a dive. Designed and initially installed without fire-control radar.
Installations: 1941 - Mid 1942:Two Mk 33 directors mounted fore and aft of the island. No fire-control radar.
Late 1942 - 1943: Two Mk 33 directors with Mk 4 fire-control radar. The Mk 4 could detect large aircraft at up to 40,000 yards with an accuracy of 40 yards. It was less effective against low-flying aircraft and only capable of detecting large surface ships at 30,000 yards.


Mk 37 Director
Description: A fully-enclosed, power-driven fire control director, designed to accommodate fire-control radar. In addition, certain components of the Mk 37 were located in armored compartments below decks, including the firing solution "computer" itself. Capable of obtaining firing solutions for targets moving at up to 400 knots level speed, and up to 250 knots vertically.
Installations: Late 1943 - 1945: Two Mk 37 directors mounted fore and aft of the island, with Mk 12 fire-control radar. The Mk 12 could detect aircraft at 45,000 yards with an accuracy of 20 yards, or ships at 40,000 yards.



Mk 51 Director
Description: A simple, one-man director, equipped with an Mk 14 gyrosight. The gyrosight, developed at MIT, computed the gun's lead angle as the target was tracked by line-of-sight. Aboard Enterprise, Mk 51 directors initially controlled 40mm guns, but during her 1945 refit, additional Mk 51's were installed for directing the 5"/38 guns against close-in targets.
Installations: Late 1943 - 1945: At least one Mk 51 director was installed, at the bow of the ship, connected to the twin 40mm gun at the same location. It appears that 4-6 other Mk 51 directors were installed at locations along the gun galleries, but this hasn't been confirmed.
1945 (post-refit): Four Mk 51 directors, each connected to one pair of 5"/38 guns, plus seven directors for control of individual 40mm mounts.


Postwar Directors
As part of her final refit in Puget Sound Navy Yard in 1945, Enterprise was fitted with four Mk 57 directors for the 5"/38 guns and adjacent 40mm Bofors mounts, four Mk 63 directors, each capable of operating with two or three 40mm mounts, four Mk 51 directors for directing the 5"/38 guns to close-in targets, seven Mk 51 directors for control of individual 40mm mounts, and two Mk 37 directors in the island: a total of 21 directors in all.

send me your email so i can send you what i have as there is supposed to be pictures included in the text but appears not showing.
 
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