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This will not be a cheap exercise as there will be no economy of scale to talk of - unless, of course, I can convince a manufacturer to produce a kit of De Zwane.

A question? Is the replica that you show on the previous page that of the Red Bay Galleon?

And I believe this is exactly what will happen - it will remain a highly exclusive build with the aim of redefining that oh-so-elusive concept of "historical accuracy". And quite frankly, this is the route that I would ultimately prefer. My reference to a kit manufacturer was more tongue-in-cheek than anything else.Essentially, the conceptual reconstruction of De Zwane was carried out for your and my personal benefit and satisfaction.
The first time that I encountered hostility from this "well-known researcher", was precisely the moment when I realised that I was on the right track. In any case, that is all behind us now and the next challenge at hand will be to bring this wonderful rendition of yours to fruition by creating a tangible construction. At this very moment, I have no idea of how, when and where that will happen, other than to say that it will happen. I also aim to bring to light one of the most influential figures in Dutch history - both on national and maritime levels - who, until now, has been shrouded in obscurity. I suppose the theorem of the prophet not being recognised in his own time, holds true on many fronts!whilst I am left to contend with the hostility of the most die-hard admirers of these well-known researchers. What a perverse life…![]()


Roger it is great to see you here! The naming of Dutch ships was a very arbitrary matter at best. Some sources have tried to define "vlieboot, jacht and pinas", but in reality, these nomenclatures meant little to historians who seemed to name them whatever they pleased. De Zwane was called a "Boot, Boodt, Vlieboot and Jacht" in official transcripts.The archeological reports use the term Galleon. Maybe just to attach a familiar name in order to raise public awareness. I don’t claim enough expertise in these old vessels to question. I’ll leave that to you guys!
Roger


Absolutely correct. It was also called a "vinkennet" or "finch's nest" as depicted in the two illustrations below:If this was a temporary structure, intended, for instance, solely for the duration of battle, it was known as a ‘loos boevenet’


The build contract specifies: "Next, on the upper side of the sheer plank, add a good and suitable oak beam (dolboom), 4 inches deep, 5 inches thick, to set in as many supports as the owner sees fit. This is exactly what Waldemar has depicted in his rendering.the fitting of so-called waist-trees (“a dolboom made of solid oak beams 4 inches thick and 5 inches wide”).





I concur, Sir! It's amazing but when you have developed the "feel" for this little ship, what is sometimes not said in the build contract, is equally important to what is written - I am glad we are on the same wavelength!I interpret ‘vast bouchnet achter’ as a half-deck of a permanent grating construction, whilst ‘dolboom’ refers to horizontal supports for the ‘loos bouchnet’ (temporary netting or grating) amidships between the forecastle and the half-deck.
You will HAVE to! Now you have me hooked!I may decide to go a little further and present my interpretation of this structure in more detail and in a visual format.

You are absolutely correct, Roger.I have read that the Sea Beggers also played a role in the eventual destruction of the Spanish Armada. When the Armada reached Gravelines on the English Channel they found that the Spanish Army that they were supposed to transport for the invasion had not arrived.
Venturing further along the shore of the Netherlands to try to make contact was not considered practical as the Dutch, especially the Sea Beggers controlled these waters. The strategy of a Fleet in Being.
Roger
| 1. The shortest, broadest, and deepest order. This order is used in some merchant ships for most profit. | To have the length by the keel double the breadth amidships and the depth in hold half that breadth. |
| 2. The mean and best proportion for shipping for merchandise, likewise very serviceable for all purposes. | Length of keel two or two and a quarter that of beam. Depth of hold eleven-twentyfourths that of beam. |
| 3. The largest order for galleons or ships for the wars made for the most advantage of sailing. | Length of keel three times the beam. Depth of hold two-fifths of beam. |
| Type | Keel : Beam | Depth in Hold |
| Merchant („most profit”) | 2 : 1 | 1/2 beam |
| Merchant („mean and best proportion”) | 2–2¼ : 1 | 11/24 beam |
| Warship / galleon | 3 : 1 | 2/5 beam |

This is uncanny accuracy, Waldemar. And the fact that a ship of Dutch origin corresponds this closely to the description in Borough's Paper, is almost beyond belief. And yet, there are those who claim that there were no actual sets of specifications according to which these ships were built and that everything was "eyeballed" by the shipwright. To me this is indicative of the sheer lazy and unprofessional manner in which "historical research" was conducted by these so-called authorities on Dutch shipbuilding of this era.As a reminder, the dimensions and proportions of De Zwane, as recorded in the earliest contracts for the construction of vlieboots dating from 1592 and the following few years, are as follows:
— Breadth: 24 feet
— Keel (touch; measured on the rabbet line): 2¼ x breadth = 54 feet (this very figure is given in the earliest contracts alongside the figure of 52 feet; the latter appears to refer to the ‘incomplete’, structural length of the keel without the scarf)
— Length between posts: 3 × breadth = 72 feet
— Depth (from the top of the keel to the deck): 10 feet, or:
— Depth (from the bottom of the keel to the deck): 11/24 × breadth = 11 feet
Don't even get me started on this subject. Karl-Heinz Marquardt has destroyed any credence that the Duyfken replica might have had, while the less that is said about the Barentsz replica in Harlingen, the better.Now, sadly, such modern, “museum” replicas are subsequently used by today’s experts as a model to be emulated, including model-makers of unrivalled practical experience or commercial manufacturers of model kits.
while the less that is said about the Barentsz replica in Harlingen, the better.

