17th Century Frigate 1:64 scale Plank on Bulkhead

[AllanKP69]

Boats
Boats to me are a fun side project in themselves. There are myriad ways to make these, but I found a variation of the version used by Bernard Frolich in his book The Art of Shipmodeling works best for me. There is a lot of information from drawings to scantlings in W. E. Mays book Boats of Men of War, David Steels work, RMG Collections, and Wiki Commons site which has high resolution versions of some the plans from RMG. Rather than repeat here, there is some information that some may find useful here at SoS https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/threads/building-a-ships-boat.14490/
For this era and ship size she would have likely carried a long boat and a pinnace so I went with a double banked long boat as it was decided to only include one boat on the model. Materials that I used were castello boxwood, holly, and Swiss pear, but there are other choices that work well.

Allan

 

[AllanKP69]

While researching another 17th century project I found the seats of ease varied a lot over the years. Most notable to me is that there were no round house heads at the bow until the early 18h century.
Allan

 

[Uwek]

.... I found the seats of ease varied a lot over the years.

yes - they varied in number and form - but common was, that all of them were not very comfortable, especially during bad weather

Allan if you allow I would like to show the members a not complete overview of seats of ease and pissdales

Seat of Ease and Pissdales

Starting this topic in order to collect information about this detail Pissdales A very good example here on Willis model - hope it is ok to use your photo here to explain and a pissdale made out of wood on the contemporary model Warship; Third rate; 60 guns Scale: 1:48. A...

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[AllanKP69]

The more information people add, the better for all of us to learn. Thanks Karl!
Allan

 

[AllanKP69]

Sheet and bower anchors rigged.
Allan

 

[Alexander74]

Sheet and bower anchors rigged.
Allan
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Allan, good afternoon.
The rod on the side also narrowed to half its thickness. Not just from below. Or are there any subtleties for certain anchors?

 

[Alexander74]

I did it like this. True or false?

 

[AllanKP69]

I did it like this. True or false?

VERY NICE! What you show was definitely the fashion in the 18th and 19th centuries. The closest to the 17th century I could find is below. It is a rough sketch from 1700 on the RMG website, and if there is any taper it seems to be very little so I just did not notice it. My fault. I should have paid closer attention to later drawings! THANK YOU VERY MUCH for posting your photos.

If anyone has drawings and/or scantlings for 17th century anchors I would love to see them as my current project is a 50 gun ship of 1695. Thanks in advance.

Allan

 

[Jimsky]

VERY NICE! What you show was definitely the fashion in the 18th and 19th centuries. The closest to the 17th century I could find is below. It is a rough sketch from 1700 on the RMG website, and if there is any taper it seems to be very little so I just did not notice it. My fault. I should have paid closer attention to later drawings! THANK YOU VERY MUCH for posting your photos.

If anyone has drawings and/or scantlings for 17th century anchors I would love to see them as my current project is a 50 gun ship of 1695. Thanks in advance.

Allan
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IMHO, the sketches are not really good sources as a historically accurate reference. Those often made by the painters, and have their 'artistic' view.

NMM has many of the images for reference. here are some of them.

 

[AllanKP69]

For the era the red ensign was the common flag on the staff at the stern. I make flags by first drawing them in CAD then printing them to scale on silk span. I usually make a mirror image of the flag on the drawing then print and cut from the sheet. Then I fold it over and brush matte medium to soak it. At the same time I hang it from a temporary staff and attach a small clamp so it pulls it down while it dries. This gives the draped look normally seen on a ship at rest. I have tried double and triple printing on one side rather than making a mirror image and the ink soaks through and this also works pretty well. Examples of this particular flag and a US flag on a schooner model are below.
Allan

 

[AllanKP69]

NMM has many of the images for reference. here are some of them.

Thanks Jim, very much appreciated! I have seen this and other drawings, but the issue (and there may not be one) for me is that it is from over 160 years after the vessel in this build was launched so might not be accurate. If you or anyone here can steer me to drawings from the 1600's I would be grateful. I have looked far and wide with no luck so far.
Allan

 

[AllanKP69]

Sorry I did not take more photos when I built this model so I have only two more to share at the bottom. These were taken prior to adding the ensign, and the best bower, and bower anchors.


Note the base board. One of my personal favorites is burled wood but the real thing is dear so I made a faux burled finish. Making the finish is quite easy but rather than go into details, the following video is great.
Allan