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I wanted to set my project aside and do something a little faster and easier, so I bought a small billings fishboat kit. The deck is plastic and will be planked with wood. I know epoxy ca or contact cement would work for gluing the planks but does anyone have suggestions?? I would prefer titebond but I don’t know if it would work. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks in advance
 
You can try the attached products.I use mostly UHU Hart because the arranging or positioning time of the to be glued piece is longer than CA and very shorter than Titebond(for wood)
Slight sanding of the plastic area before glueing should bring better results because of the increased glueing area
Happy modeling

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Hey Bob, I hope you are doing well with your recovery.
I don't believe that Titebond would work at all because it can't "grab" the surface of the plastic. I would probably use a CA product after I use sandpaper to scuff the surface of the plastic.
 
Corsair said:
Hey Bob, I hope you are doing well with your recovery.
I don't believe that Titebond would work at all because it can't "grab" the surface of the plastic. I would probably use a CA product after I use sandpaper to scuff the surface of the plastic.
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Thanks Jeff, getting better but unable to spend any time at the workbench. I have washed it well and sanded the surface. If gorilla glue could be applied thinly and evenly I know that it would hold. Going to make a test strip
 
If you want to use gorilla glue. Try using the toothed edge of a hacksaw blade to spread the glue out. That will leave small lines of glue the same size and evenly spaced on the surface. Place the glue on the individual pieces of wood as you install them. My issue with Gorilla glue is that it expands as it dries.
If you need anything, call me. :)
 
Korsan said:
You can try the attached products.I use mostly UHU Hart because the arranging or positioning time of the to be glued piece is longer than CA and very shorter than Titebond(for wood)
Slight sanding of the plastic area before glueing should bring better results because of the increased glueing area
Happy modeling

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Thanks, not familiar with that glue . I’ll have to order some
 
This is a second-hand answer. I have not used it myself but I saw it in a build log of a Flower Class Corvette on another forum. The modeller glued thin tissue paper to the plastic deck with Tamiya Extra Thin plastic cement. One that dried, he glued his planks down with Titebond. It sounds like a great idea but of course, test it first, especially as I have not personally used the method.
 
Smithy said:
This is a second-hand answer. I have not used it myself but I saw it in a build log of a Flower Class Corvette on another forum. The modeller glued thin tissue paper to the plastic deck with Tamiya Extra Thin plastic cement. One that dried, he glued his planks down with Titebond. It sounds like a great idea but of course, test it first, especially as I have not personally used the method.
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That’s an interesting solution
 
I’ve made a test. Coated a piece of the plastic with a thin layer of ca, let it dry and glues a strip of wood to it with titebond. After it dries well I’ll see if it holds
 
I've glued 0.4mm veneer to plastic and tested various glues. To cut to the chase, CA not so good. Super 'Phatic is much better. The photo shows a test piece using some scrap on a bit of evergreen. As you can see, dead flat and that sample has been on there for a fair while now. What I like about Super 'Phatic is that it is quite watery and you have loads of time to position the parts. The downside(-ish) is that clamping is necessary for those very reasons, as it does not really 'grab'. It remains possible to remove the deck down the line as the glue doesn't 'weld' to the plastic, but you need to use some force so I see this as a plus point.

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Senorbob said:
I wanted to set my project aside and do something a little faster and easier, so I bought a small billings fishboat kit. The deck is plastic and will be planked with wood. I know epoxy ca or contact cement would work for gluing the planks but does anyone have suggestions?? I would prefer titebond but I don’t know if it would work. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks in advance
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Senorbob said:
I wanted to set my project aside and do something a little faster and easier, so I bought a small billings fishboat kit. The deck is plastic and will be planked with wood. I know epoxy ca or contact cement would work for gluing the planks but does anyone have suggestions?? I would prefer titebond but I don’t know if it would work. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks in advance
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Hi Senorbob
Because of my couriosity i tested Uhu Hart for glueing plastic with wood or vice versa and tested the bonding power after 3 min bonding time using a proxxon machine vice (weight 750 gr) with the help of my dear wife.The result shown in tje attachments seem in my opinion to be satisfactory

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Kevin the Lubber said:
I've glued 0.4mm veneer to plastic and tested various glues. To cut to the chase, CA not so good. Super 'Phatic is much better. The photo shows a test piece using some scrap on a bit of evergreen. As you can see, dead flat and that sample has been on there for a fair while now. What I like about Super 'Phatic is that it is quite watery and you have loads of time to position the parts. The downside(-ish) is that clamping is necessary for those very reasons, as it does not really 'grab'. It remains possible to remove the deck down the line as the glue doesn't 'weld' to the plastic, but you need to use some force so I see this as a plus point.

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Kevin, thanks for that. Someone else recommended uhu so I am having a delivery tomorrow. I will try an experiment with that and if I don’t like it I will try super phactic
 
Kevin the Lubber said:
I've glued 0.4mm veneer to plastic and tested various glues. To cut to the chase, CA not so good. Super 'Phatic is much better. The photo shows a test piece using some scrap on a bit of evergreen. As you can see, dead flat and that sample has been on there for a fair while now. What I like about Super 'Phatic is that it is quite watery and you have loads of time to position the parts. The downside(-ish) is that clamping is necessary for those very reasons, as it does not really 'grab'. It remains possible to remove the deck down the line as the glue doesn't 'weld' to the plastic, but you need to use some force so I see this as a plus point.

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I use this on rigging knots as it doesn't 'creep' along the rope, & dries fairly quickly.
 
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