Black Prince

[Ronmackey]

Has any one done the Mamoli Black Prince. I am having a problem with the stern planking arrangement. The plans are not very clear
Ron Mackey

 

[AllanKP69]

Please post some photos of the plans and model if you can. I think there is a build log here at SoS for 2019 that may help.
Allan

 

[DARIVS ARCHITECTVS]

I have not built that, but it's a VERY nice looking privateer ship! Don't tell any of the British members you are going to built that though... they don't take kindly to Yankee pirates. The stern should look something like this, the Baltimore clipper Halcon, except without the curve counter just below the transom. The instructions assume you know how to plank a hull. If you don't this will be a huge learning experience!



See the three horizontal planks that make up the transom? See the deck at the bottom? The hull planks beneath the transom twist until the ends are almost horizontal. The ends of the hull planks run along the bottom edge of the transom. Soak the planks in water to soften them before you try twisting and bending the into shape. Hold them at the desired shape on the hull, and LET THEM DRY. If you try to force the springy planks in position and use glue to hold them there, they won't stay in place. You make need to fill a trangular gap in the hull on each side with a stealer plank:


Planking shown up the the deck level, taken from another modeler's Black Prince build log on MSW.


The last few planks run up the sides, forming the bulwarks.

 

[AllanKP69]

Welcome to SoS Ron

 

[ConsNZ]

I have not built that, but it's a VERY nice looking privateer ship! Don't tell any of the Britishs member you are going to built that though... they don't take kindly to Yankee pirates. The stern should look something like this, the Baltimore clipper Halcon, except without the curve counter just below the transom. The instructions assume you know how to plank a hull. If you don't this will be a huge learning experience!
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View attachment 493835See the three horizontal planks that make up the transom? See the deck at the bottom? The hull planks beneath the transom twist until the ends are almost horizontal. The ends of the hull planks run along the bottom edge of the transom. Soak the planks in water to soften them before you try twisting and bending the into shape. Hold them at the desired shape on the hull, and LET THEM DRY. If you try to force the springy planks in position and use glue to hold them there, they won't stay in place. You make need to fill a trangular gap in the hull on each side with a stealer plank:
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Planking shown up the the deck level, taken from another modeler's Black Prince build log on MSW.
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The last few planks run up the sides, forming the bulwarks.
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"they don't take kindly to Yankee pirates". -- made my day, Very good explanation for the planking. Cheers.

 

[Beginer Builder Bill]

Black Prince is my first attempt at wood ship building.
The model itself seems to be of good quality but the plans are the worst .
You need a magnifying glass to read page one after you find instructions in your native language.
The parts list is in inches.The plans are metric. I chose the wrong kit.
I’m still going for it tho.

 

[DARIVS ARCHITECTVS]

Black Prince is my first attempt at wood ship building.
The model itself seems to be of good quality but the plans are the worst .
You need a magnifying glass to read page one after you find instructions in your native language.
The parts list is in inches.The plans are metric. I chose the wrong kit.
I’m still going for it tho.

You will do it proud, Bill. Use build logs from other Black Prince builders as a guide if you can find them. Most of your questions arising from trying to make sense of the plans should be answered then. The Black Prince is a handsome sloop. Ask detailed and specific questions of the this forum membership if you get stuck.