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How long did it take to build a ship like HMS Victory?
She was ordered in 1758, laid down in 1759, and launched in 1765. With 246 years of service as of 2024, she is the world's oldest naval vessel still in commission. Below are some very interesting facts (sorry English language)

 
How long did it take to build a ship like HMS Victory?
HMS Victory, for example, took over five years to build but three of those years she spent on the ways without work being performed on her.
That time allowed her timbers to season and become stronger and more resistant to rot. Her actual completion in terms of build time was around three years.

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From the 'net: For oak trees to reach full size, they need about 22 feet between trees. This yields about 90 trees per acre so 40 acres makes sense. The National Museum of the Royal Navy claims it took 6000 trees, 90% of which were oak, to build Victory so 60 acres would have been needed if the Museum has the right figures.

I also read the following which was quite interesting. I have not verified the stats so it may all be bogus.

A large warship would have required about 2,000 oak trees for its construction. The Royal George, a 100-gun ship, launched in 1756, used 2,309 loads (a load being 50 cubic feet) of straight oak and 2,306 loads of compass oak (curved grain). But this was not the whole story.

In his book "The London Hanged", historian Peter Linebaugh cites the jealously-guarded perks allowed to Royal Dockyard workers in the 18th century, which were called "chips". These were pieces of waste wood no more than 3 feet long, which the workers were allowed to remove for their own use.

They were partly used as firewood, but, as Samuel Bentham discovered in 1795 while lodging in Portsmouth, the wood was also used for building staircases, doors, cupboards and furniture in their houses. Some bundles were also sold as a way of supplementing very low wages.

Yeoman Lott also conducted research into wastage involved in taking chips between 1768 and 1770. He found that for a third rate ship of 74 guns, the ratio of waste wood to that actually used to build the ship should have been 4:11. In actual fact, 60 percent of the timber ordered found its way back outside the dockyard as chips rather than being incorporated into one of His Majesty's warships!

Nails, brass, rope and sailcloth also disappeared in large quantities…
 
From the 'net: For oak trees to reach full size, they need about 22 feet between trees. This yields about 90 trees per acre so 40 acres makes sense. The National Museum of the Royal Navy claims it took 6000 trees, 90% of which were oak, to build Victory so 60 acres would have been needed if the Museum has the right figures.

I also read the following which was quite interesting. I have not verified the stats so it may all be bogus.

A large warship would have required about 2,000 oak trees for its construction. The Royal George, a 100-gun ship, launched in 1756, used 2,309 loads (a load being 50 cubic feet) of straight oak and 2,306 loads of compass oak (curved grain). But this was not the whole story.

In his book "The London Hanged", historian Peter Linebaugh cites the jealously-guarded perks allowed to Royal Dockyard workers in the 18th century, which were called "chips". These were pieces of waste wood no more than 3 feet long, which the workers were allowed to remove for their own use.

They were partly used as firewood, but, as Samuel Bentham discovered in 1795 while lodging in Portsmouth, the wood was also used for building staircases, doors, cupboards and furniture in their houses. Some bundles were also sold as a way of supplementing very low wages.

Yeoman Lott also conducted research into wastage involved in taking chips between 1768 and 1770. He found that for a third rate ship of 74 guns, the ratio of waste wood to that actually used to build the ship should have been 4:11. In actual fact, 60 percent of the timber ordered found its way back outside the dockyard as chips rather than being incorporated into one of His Majesty's warships!

Nails, brass, rope and sailcloth also disappeared in large quantities…
Nothing's changed, then?
 
Sorry if I am a bit dense this morning, but I am not sure what you are referring to. I think I just probably need more coffee.................. :)
Allan
My favorite is veteran owned Black Rifle coffee, Murdered Out roast. Puts hairs on an x-acto knife.....LoL
 
Sorry if I am a bit dense this morning, but I am not sure what you are referring to. I think I just probably need more coffee.................. :)
Allan
It's that 'Divided by the same Language' syndrome, I was referring to employees pilfering from their employers. ;) Just had my coffee, thanks!

Stuart
 
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