Kit Review Cisne Negro (Black Swan), 1:75 by OcCre

Such a beautiful-looking kit, I can’t pass up the opportunity to throw my hat in the ring. We’re finalizing the design on our new house, which includes a custom room just for this hobby. Black swan would be an awesome inaugural build for my new hobby room. Unfortunately, if our entries are going to judged on the quality of our prose, then I’m dead in the water if Smithy joins the lottery. ROTF
 
is anyone else worried about the fact that this is a random selected kit and the metal fittings absolutely SUCK... seriously, that wheel, 2 handles missing.. and 2 more that are horridly deformed..

And why would a ship of this year have a wheel... should still be roughly in the whipstaff era still.
Greetings tball4217,

I can see that you missed some information while reading this review. ;) Arrr, the Black Swan, ye say! A fine and famous name for a pirate ship — though fictional, she’s often imagined in the style of a late 17th to early 18th-century galleon or frigate, right in the golden age o’ piracy. If yer picturin’ the Black Swan as she might’ve been in the 16th century, then she wouldn’t yet have had the wheel — she’d be steered by whipstaff or tiller, as we just spoke of.

But if yer thinkin’ of her more like in the era o' Cap'n Jack Sparrow or Blackbeard (early 1700s), then aye, she’d likely have a ship’s wheel, connected to the tiller by ropes and pulleys (the rope and drum mechanism).
So here's the rub:
  • 16th century Black Swan (think Spanish Armada era): No wheel—whipstaff or tiller.
  • Golden Age o' Piracy Black Swan (late 1600s–early 1700s): Yes wheel, likely on a raised quarterdeck, with ropes leadin’ below.
What kind of version ye got in mind for yer Black Swan? More high Renaissance or golden age pirate glory?

OcCre’d’ve gladly replaced the shattered pieces, no doubt — but I took the matter in me own hands an’ mended ’em meself!

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I joined the fold back in Dec last and have completed my first build. Unfortunately it’s taken my whole life to find this fabulous hobby but at 77 I am like a kid in a candy store regarding model building, hopefully I can be added to the draw.
Oh, I have added a pic of my first achievement.

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A fine-lookin’ model, Dennis — she’s a real beauty! But ye’ll need to hoist a bit more activity to be part o’ the ruffle, matey!
 
Such a beautiful-looking kit, I can’t pass up the opportunity to throw my hat in the ring. We’re finalizing the design on our new house, which includes a custom room just for this hobby. Black swan would be an awesome inaugural build for my new hobby room. Unfortunately, if our entries are going to judged on the quality of our prose, then I’m dead in the water if Smithy joins the lottery. ROTF
Yer name's in the cask!
 
Hello everyone,
I'm at war with this kit. The quality isn't great; just look at the figures and the steering wheel. But my expectations are probably too high. I'm currently building the kit and have already posted a build report here in the forum. If you're a beginner and just want to get started with model building, this is the place for you. However, if you want to build true to scale and with great detail, this model kit from OcCre won't be easy.

Best regards,
Günther
 
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Hallo zusammen,
Ich bin mit diesem Bausatz auf Kriegsfuß. Die Qualität ist nicht so toll, seht euch mal die Figuren und das Lenkrad an. Aber meine Erwartungen sind wohl zu hoch. Ich baue den Bausatz gerade und habe auch schon einen Baubericht hier im Forum erstellt. Wer Anfänger ist und gerade erst mit dem Modellbau anfangen möchte, ist hier gut aufgehoben. Wer aber maßstabsgetreu und detailgetreu bauen möchte, wird mit diesem Modellbausatz von OcCre keine leichte Aufgabe haben.

Beste grüße
Günther
Thanks for your reply, Günther. OcCre lists this kit as medium difficulty, so I wouldn’t suggest it for a beginner. As you said, it’s definitely 'not an easy task
 
Fine looking kit to build if won, it would go good with my Flying Dutchman, which is planned to be built for my daughters house so my two grandsons have a ship to think about, so why not a pair of ships for them to each have one and think about pirate battles at sea between the two while dreaming.
 
Fine looking kit to build if won, it would go good with my Flying Dutchman, which is planned to be built for my daughters house so my two grandsons have a ship to think about, so why not a pair of ships for them to each have one and think about pirate battles at sea between the two while dreaming.
Aye, thank ye kindly for yer reply, Kurt! The sea’s accepted ye — ye be part o’ the ruffle now!

Mark me words, should ye claim the prize, ye’ll owe the crew a build log to chart yer voyage!
 
Loved the review and the swan castings have not built an OcCre ship but have built a couple of there locomotives as a break from the hoy and pandora i am working on
Arrr Roger, ye scallywag! Glad ye enjoyed the review and them swan castin’s—finely molded, like the figurehead of a queen’s galleon. Now tell me this, matey... would ye be willin’ to toss yer hat in for the Black Swan draw? We be lookin’ fer brave souls willin’ to chart the build in a log—aye, to show the crew how it's done from keel to crow’s nest!

If ye be keen, speak the word, and we’ll be notin’ yer name on the manifest. Fair winds and full sails to ye!
 
Very good and nice presentation of the kit.
Of course I get the urge to build it, but I already have about 20 unbuilt kits so I'm left over. If, against the odds, I finish building my kits, I would love to add a pirate ship to the collection. :)
I will follow the winner's build with great interest.
 
Thanks for the review, Jimsky. It looks like a very nice kit to build. My question is why Occre and Artesania are still making these metal parts. Are they cheaper to make than resin or plastic? They are quite difficult to work with, at least for me.
I would love to build this kit and prove that I'm wrong about metal parts, but unfortunately, my posts count sucks.
 
Please add me to the raffle. As a kid I always played at pirates. My friends and I would use an abandoned loading dock in the neighborhood as our "ship" and we would get into sea battles with other kids using pea shooters (not very safe, but we all kept our eyes uninjured)!! Even as an adult, I would slip into a pirate accent whenever the occasion presented itself. I would love to recreate my youth in building this model.
 
hanks for the review, Jimsky. It looks like a very nice kit to build. My question is why Occre and Artesania are still making these metal parts. Are they cheaper to make than resin or plastic? They are quite difficult to work with, at least for me.
I would love to build this kit and prove that I'm wrong about metal parts, but unfortunately, my posts count sucks.
Thanks, appreciate that! Yeah, those metal parts definitely spark mixed feelings. From what I understand, companies like Occre and Artesania Latina have stuck with white metal castings for a few reasons—partly tradition, but also practicality. Switching over to resin or high-quality plastic would mean major retooling, and that’s a big investment—especially for companies that cater to a niche market and can’t guarantee a return on that cost.

They also tend to move slowly when it comes to broad changes. Hiring new personnel or retraining for different production methods is another expense, so unless there's an apparent demand or benefit, they often stick with what works—even if it’s not ideal for every builder.

That said, I’ve seen great results from folks who clean and paint the metal parts well, and others who swap them out for aftermarket options like resin or 3D prints. Don’t let post count hold you back—this kit could be a good opportunity to see if the metal parts really are a dealbreaker for you

Do ya want to be added to the draw?
 
Please add me to the raffle. As a kid I always played at pirates. My friends and I would use an abandoned loading dock in the neighborhood as our "ship" and we would get into sea battles with other kids using pea shooters (not very safe, but we all kept our eyes uninjured)!! Even as an adult, I would slip into a pirate accent whenever the occasion presented itself. I would love to recreate my youth in building this model.
Ahoy there, matey! Thank ye for sharin’ yer fine tale—it warms this old buccaneer’s heart to hear of days spent plunderin’ the seas (or at least imaginin’ 'em) at the old dock. Ye’ve been added to the raffle, and it sounds like this model be the perfect vessel to sail down memory lane.
So, tell me, what be the part of this kit that captures yer spirit the most? Is it the intricate lines, the rich details, or somethin’ else that stirs the adventurous soul in ye?

Thank ye, Carlos, and may fair winds guide yer build!
 
Ahoy there, matey! Thank ye for sharin’ yer fine tale—it warms this old buccaneer’s heart to hear of days spent plunderin’ the seas (or at least imaginin’ 'em) at the old dock. Ye’ve been added to the raffle, and it sounds like this model be the perfect vessel to sail down memory lane.
So, tell me, what be the part of this kit that captures yer spirit the most? Is it the intricate lines, the rich details, or somethin’ else that stirs the adventurous soul in ye?

Thank ye, Carlos, and may fair winds guide yer build!
Aaarrr! I love the overall look of this ship and it represents the "look" that I imagine a Jolly Roger ship would have. I am also a big admirer of Occre. Their kits have great quality materials and the instructions are first-rate, at least for me. They also have very good customer service. They will replace lost, missing or broken parts, no questions asked.
 
Hi guys,

As I already mentioned. If you have a childhood dream, you should let it come true. The Black Swan is definitely suitable for that. So let's go....
Since I'm building the Black Swan, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you....

Best regards,
Günter

P.S.

Please excuse my poor English; I'm currently learning to improve it and also use Google Translate.
 
Hi All
Looks an interesting build. Be nice to win it!
I've built a couple of other OCCre kits - not ships but railway engine and its accompanying rolling stock. It's the Adler. A nice build and I like the way the parts are presented.
Rob
 
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