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Corel Vasa - bashed

DARIVS ARCHITECTVS said:
I'm just glad you're here, Mike. Paul filled me in via PM on your two accounts, and the causes thereof. MSW rules are harshly enforced, so one has to watch one's step over there. I NEVER mention or post on ANY model builds originating from China in order to play by their rules while in their house. The management there are Crusaders, but then again events they have suffered under piracy have made them VERY angry, so their views are understandable knowing what they've been to, just extreme.
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Re MSW something I noticed very early on while researching model ship building hence here I am at SoS which looked a friendlier house.
 
Richie said:
Re MSW something I noticed very early on while researching model ship building hence here I am at SoS which looked a friendlier house.
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I was on both forums, and there are great users on both, but this forum is definitely friendlier. I spend more time here than there because there were more people working on 17th century ships here. MSW is doomed to die from lack of membership due to the heinous actions of their admins in attempts to censor THIS forum. What's important is we are free to share our hobby here without politics. I've been working on HMS Sovereign of the Seas, which will be my finest work. After that I'll be doing a few easier models like USS Rattlesnake by Mamoli (Dusek) and the Spanish galleon San Francisco II by Artesania Latina. It would be great if there were more older style galleons and men of war, but the selection of kits is rather few. Scratch building is the only option.
 
Daniel,
Thanks so much - I'm also humbled by Paul's comments about my build in his Vasa build log. So glad that you may also find some useful info when you get
to rigging. It was my first attempt - it did work out - but their were a few missteps that required cutting and re-installing some ropes. Yikes..A lot of details are in the log....The Corel example does not include sails or sail rigging sheets. I used (line by line) the rigging plans from the Billings Vasa kit (including some lines for standing rigging) . A kind member sent me jpg's of his sheets....And as you also know the VASA II book is many years behind it's intended publication date. That said even with the book standing and running rigging of Vasa - specifically - is a bet sketchy.... Your Billing's sheets will be perfect!!

PS: I Don't remember if you have already attached yards and sails to your Vasa - But I learned from another Vasa builder's log that if you also plan
on furling the bowsprit sail and lower foresail (as I did) that you don't cut them full size but remove about 30-40% of their length before furling because
when you furl them they will "appear" too thick and possibly out of scale. The lower mainsail, as you know, I partially raised in order to allow a better view of the deck. Just a few thoughts - lol

Cheers,
 
md1400cs said:
Bonjour
Voici quelques photos de mon Corel Vasa terminé. Veuillez noter que toutes les cordes, blocs, yeux morts et canons sont après-vente. Une grande partie du bois est également fournie par le marché secondaire. Pour le gréement, à la fois debout et en cours d’exécution, utilisez les feuilles de Billings, de Mantoue et du musée ainsi que des photos du 1/10e comme guides, et non les instructions du Corel. Bien que le gréement de ce navire soit encore indéterminé... Plus important encore, j’ai étudié les 1000 photos disponibles du 1/1 et du 1/10ème au musée. En ce qui concerne le boîtier – je voulais lui donner un look minimaliste, ainsi que reproduire un look de pont avec des clous d’arbre.

Merci d’avoir regardé, très apprécié
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Super belle maquette. De quelle version de « Corel » s’agît il et quelle échelle de construction.

Je suis aussi retourné à la construction de ma Vasa de Corel à l’échelle 1/75, mais mon modèle a déjà presque 50 ans. A voir votre maquette, c’est à devenir jaloux:)

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md1400cs said:
Hello,
Here are some shots of my completed Corel Vasa. Please note that all ropes, blocks, deadeyes, and cannons are after-market. Much of the wood is also aftermarket supplied. For the rigging both standing and running used the Billings, Mantua, and the museum’s sheets along with photos of the 1/10th as guides, not the Corel’s instructions. Though rigging for this ship is still undetermined...Most importantly I studied the 1000s of available photos of the 1/1 and the 1/10th at the museum. Regarding the case – wanted to do a minimalist look to it, as well as replicating a deck look along with treenails.

Thanks for looking, much appreciated
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Super belle maquette. De quelle version de « Corel » s’agît il et quelle échelle de construction.

Je suis aussi retourné à la construction de ma Vasa de Corel à l’échelle 1/75, mais mon modèle a déjà presque 50 ans. A voir votre maquette, c’est à devenir jaloux
 
Gibbes,
De quelle version de « Corel » s’agît il et quelle échelle de construction.

What version of "Corel" is it and what build scale?

Corel n'a sorti qu'un seul kit Wasa au 1/75. Le vôtre et le mien sont le même kit. J'ai juste décidé de "réparer" avec un travail personnalisé les
erreurs qui étaient et sont toujours dans le Corel Vasa encore vendu aujourd'hui en 2023. Merci pour vos gentils commentaires sur mon exemple fini.
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Corel has released only one 1/75 Wasa kit. Your's and mine are the same kit. I just decided to "fix" with custom work the
errors that were and still are in the Corel Vasa still sold today in 2023. Thanks for you nice comments about my finished example.

Magic Mike; double thanks for you comments -- cheers
 
Gibbes said:
Super belle maquette. De quelle version de « Corel » s’agît il et quelle échelle de construction.

Je suis aussi retourné à la construction de ma Vasa de Corel à l’échelle 1/75, mais mon modèle a déjà presque 50 ans. A voir votre maquette, c’est à devenir jaloux:)
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Hallo @Gibbes
we wish you all the BEST and a HAPPY BIRTHDAY
Birthday-Cake
 
md1400cs said:
Epicdoom: Funny – I know how you feel, in fact I would assume that most of our Admirals have no idea how much some of us actually spend at this hobby (well prob. NOT as much as HO model main mahobbyists haha)

BTW- re, The Vasa, a new kit, has reached the market (you prob new already) and is available to purchase in monthly allotments. This is a NEW kit and has been designed with Fred Hocker from the Vasa Museum. It looks to be the best out there in terms of accuracy. The Corel is the least accurate of the three that have been available for years.

https://www.model-space.com/us/buil...MI5IrQoKiG3gIVyGSGCh0xcQuyEAMYAiAAEgIR6fD_BwE



Cheers,
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Please check the link, it didn't work for me. Is this the De Agostini kit? I have downloaded all the instruction guides and have been using them as reference (figure painting, hull and deck planking, etc.) since I began my VASA. It has helped in correcting some Corel deficiencies. I was also able to get scale templates from the VASA museum that will help me construct the decks.
 
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