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Fletch Dog

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I am hopeful someone can help me find an eye pin that is made of 0.5mm diameter wire with a 2.0mm OUTSIDE diameter eye? I've looked and I am unable locate any. Plus there doesn't seem to be a uniformed way of describing the sizes on various websites and that makes it more difficult. HELP please.

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With a 2mm OD, this would be 3 3/4" OD if a scale of 1:48. Just for an example, using the chart below for the twelve pounder short or nine pounder eye bolt it would have 1" or 3/4" round rod to start with. If 1:48 this would be about 0.4-0.5mm material. If the outside needs to be 2mm, the ID needs to be about 1mm. Following Graham's advice, using a 1mm drill bit, wrap the ring around the bit and it will be the correct size and to scale with the material used.
Allan

From The Constuction and Fitting of the English Man of War, page 217 by Peter Goodwin,
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Like belaying pins, the eye bolts supplied with kits often appear to be overscale. Not exactly comparable but the ringbolts used to lift wooden hatch covers for my steamship project were only 6” outside diameter. The deckhands lifted the covers by inserting short wooden hatch bats into the rings. They did not grab ahold of the rings.

At the model’s1:96 scale the 6” diameter rings would scale to 1/16”. This was too small to model a separate eye bolt and ring so I made them as the “eye pins” shown above, I inserted the shank of each into a hole drilled into the hatch and then bent the eye over to simulate the ring.

I made these eye pins from .010” diameter tinned brass wire. I bent the eye around a piece of 1/32” aluminum wire. The joint at the “neck” between the eye and the shank was secured with a tiny drop of solder using .010” diameter solder wire. Solder does not bond to the aluminum used for the mandrel.

Roger
 
Fish&Chip said:
All good ideas, but for me, I search the low cost, an Amati A4703 gives you 100 pins for a peanut.
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I agree this is an easier way to go IF they are the right size. The problem is we have a variety of scales in our models, there are ring bolts as well as eye bolts and there were various sizes of each on the ship. The cost of using a few bits of wire to make hundreds of eye bolts or ring bolts in the home shop in a variety of sizes costs next to nothing in money or time.
Allan
 
AllanKP69 said:
I agree this is an easier way to go IF they are the right size. The problem is we have a variety of scales in our models, there are ring bolts as well as eye bolts and there were various sizes of each on the ship. The cost of using a few bits of wire to make hundreds of eye bolts or ring bolts in the home shop in a variety of sizes costs next to nothing in money or time.
Allan
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You're right. For amati ship of 1/64 it is good. Must check else where for other size, not easy to find...
 
The eye bolt holding a ring (ring bolt) has an ID that is even smaller than most eyebolts so probably easier to make than find pre-made. The below is for 1:64 scale for a typical ring bolt for a 5" circumference breeching line as an example which would be for a 12 pounder or 18 pounder. Sizes are approximate, but should be pretty close. 0.4mm material is the same as 26 gage copper wire. Under $10 US for 100 feet. There is some offered with a black coating so there is no need to blacken it with liver of sulfur or paint.

Allan
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AllanKP69 said:
The eye bolt holding a ring (ring bolt) has an ID that is even smaller than most eyebolts so probably easier to make than find pre-made. The below is for 1:64 scale for a typical ring bolt for a 5" circumference breeching line as an example which would be for a 12 pounder or 18 pounder. Sizes are approximate, but should be pretty close. 0.4mm material is the same as 26 gage copper wire. Under $10 US for 100 feet. There is some offered with a black coating so there is no need to blacken it with liver of sulfur or paint.

Allan
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Thanks Allan, I was mislead by incorrect translation. I invert the terms (eyepin and ringbolt vs ring). Thanks for showing me the pictures which is very clear.
 
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