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Hello fellow ship modelers. I have returned to the hobby after a long journey. I began building models when I was very young, and very unskilled. When I was in elementary school, a cousin gave me a plastic kit of the USS Arizona. He didn't want it because it was missing the instructions, and these were the days when there was no internet to enable easy access to the company. Somehow I managed to put it together by looking at the photo on the box, and I really enjoyed it. It was ugly, and unpainted, but the process of building it was fun. We didn't have the means to enable me to seriously get into the hobby, but I never forgot the experience.

In junior high school I began working in the summers as an apprentice carpenter for my brother-in-law. Child labor concerns aside, I learned a great deal...how to measure in 1/16ths, safe use of power tools, etc. I also developed a real love of working with wood, even if it was just construction-grade pine and ply. This love for wood manifested one day in high school when I saw a wooden ship model at a hobby store, and used some of my meagre savings to buy it. I worked on it when time allowed, finally finishing it in the summer before I left home for college. It was a Cutty Sark, but I cannot recall the maker or scale. It was double planked, and I loved the look of the walnut hull and enjoyed the rigging process. The model is long gone now, and the work involved in paying for college (and having some fun here and there) didn't allow time to continue to pursue the hobby.

Fast forward through a 20-year career as a helicopter pilot in the US Army, and another 20-year career as a military historian, and I am now retired and returning to the hobby. I am assembling the tools and I have a few kits (Victory Models Vanguard, full frame Bluenose, etc.), and I am learning a lot from this forum. I am gradually beginning work on the Vanguard, which I will build as the Elephant, but a recent move has caused some delay. I hope to get back to it in earnest soon.

In the meantime, hello everyone. I am really grateful for the resources and community available on this forum.

MTC47
 
20-year career as a helicopter pilot in the US Army
Thank you very much for your service and welcome to SoS. Our youngest retired after 21 years flying Blackhawks for the army. I still remember seeing videos of the kids in his class learning to hover when he was at Fort Rucker. Dipsy doodled most of the early sessions until they finally got it right. Fun times!

For your Elephant, is it safe to assume you have the original contract given to George Parsons with all the scantlings and the contemporary drawings in your possession? If not, there is a full set of high resolution plans for the Arrogant class of 74's on the Wiki website as well as the low res version on the RMG site that include Elephant and Vanguard that you might find helpful in your project. Page 1 of the original contract is below as an example.

Allan

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Welcome to the SOS Group. Sounds like you have had a very interesting career and now that you are looking at retirement this is a great place to be for friendship and all questions related to model ship building.
 
Welcome aboard and thank you very much for your service! Look forward to watching your builds.
 
Thank you very much for your service and welcome to SoS. Our youngest retired after 21 years flying Blackhawks for the army. I still remember seeing videos of the kids in his class learning to hover when he was at Fort Rucker. Dipsy doodled most of the early sessions until they finally got it right. Fun times!

For your Elephant, is it safe to assume you have the original contract given to George Parsons with all the scantlings and the contemporary drawings in your possession? If not, there is a full set of high resolution plans for the Arrogant class of 74's on the Wiki website as well as the low res version on the RMG site that include Elephant and Vanguard that you might find helpful in your project. Page 1 of the original contract is below as an example.

Allan

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Hi Allan and thanks for the welcome! I still feel guilty for traumatizing the cows that grazed in the field where we learned to hover. I flew Hueys in flight school, then transitioned to the CH-47 cargo helicopter which I flew for the rest of my career.

I don't have a copy of the plans you mentioned for the Arrogant-class ships. I hunted around on line a bit but had no success finding the high res plans. Could you send me a link? TIA.

Mark
 
Hi Mark,

First my apologies I misspoke in that not all the plans for 74s I have in high res are for the Arrogant class. In any case, unfortunately most of the ship plans there are low res but a few are available for free in high res and some can be found on the Wiki Commons site. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ship_plans_of_the_Royal_Museums_Greenwich

There are about 3000 plans from RMG there, but "only" about 800 in high res.

Scroll to page 8. There are a slew of Elephant drawings, but only one or two are high res. Still they are all useful. I do have high res drawings of the inboard profile and framing plan. I have no idea where I got them but if you PM me with your email address I can email them to you. The files are too large to attach here or on a PM otherwise I would just post them here. You might want to search to see if there are any other Arrogant class ship plans there in high res. For some reason they go in alphabetical order for three pages or so, then start over from "A"

I am sorry I could not help with a full set of high res drawings for you but even the low res should be helpful. You can get them all in high res from RMG but they are far from inexpensive.

The link for the contract is https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-459238 It is over 20 pages but good resolution and is probably as useful if not more so for dimensions on virtually every part of the ship.

Allan
 
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