HMS Indefatigable

Kaycee said:
I'm governed by actual length and height of the completed model itself, somewhere approximate to 3 foot long and 2 1/2 high, ball park figures of course.
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Do you want to show her fully rigged with masts and yards?
An alternative could be to show the frigate hull shortly before the launching as admirality model

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zoly99sask said:
She would make s nice model

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Absolutely, I've been dwelling on it for a few years now but am surprised that it hasn't been offered as a Model already.
I've come to accept that its going to be a long journey, but worthy of the effort.

The Mantua kit Le Superbe lends itself to the project (French Temaraire class) and sister ship to the Fougueux, which the British designer Slade based his Ardent class on (Indefatigable). If all else fails I might have to accept the the Scale penalty and work with the Mantua kit.
 
I want shortly to give you an additional link to a german forum, where a friend of mine Alexander is just designing the drawings of another razeed ship, the HMS Anson (1781) which was an Intrepid-class.

Maybe you can get some info - and when the drawings are finished, maybe it would be good to purchase one set from him

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Hallo zusammen, da ich jetzt schon einerhalb Monate im Home Office arbeiten darf, habe ich endlich mehr Zeit für wichtige Sachen So habe ich die Pl&aum
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How long are you willing to wait? I think Vanguard Models (Chris Watton) has talked about doing an Indy, although probably not for a couple years yet....
 
As already mentioned, the Caldercraft Agamemnon looks like your best bet here.
She is not an admiralty board model, which means that you will have to redesign and cut down the frames, and obviously redesign the aft part above the spar deck.
Another big job is lowering the bowsprit and the whole bow, scrolls etc.... That is very easily visible on the admiralty drawings of both versions from the museum in Greenwich, but a lot of work as tou may have to repair the whole area (although I do not think too much, because the yard at the time would have gone to great length to use as much as possible of the existing structure).
I plan to use that same model to make the "St Lambert", a fictitious East India flute, which just involves closing some lower deck gun ports and removing the poop.
 
Yesterday I browsed the NMM site and made a print of the HMS Serapis plan. I built this ship 20 years ago and still like her,
thought it would be a nice decoration and am about to order the original.
As I saw Uwes plan of the razed Idefatigable, I was surprised, how similar they are.
Without closer investigation: maybe the old kit by Aeropiccola of the Serapis was a proper base for kitbashing?
But maybe I am completely wrong.

Christian
 
Gebirgsmarine said:
Yesterday I browsed the NMM site and made a print of the HMS Serapis plan. I built this ship 20 years ago and still like her,
thought it would be a nice decoration and am about to order the original.
As I saw Uwes plan of the razed Idefatigable, I was surprised, how similar they are.
Without closer investigation: maybe the old kit by Aeropiccola of the Serapis was a proper base for kitbashing?
But maybe I am completely wrong.

Christian
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Hallo Christian,

I agree, that the form is looking similar, but the real figures on the measurement were different, so that the Serapis-into-Indefatigable project will have several other scale and proportion problems

Take a look at these measurements

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BTW: I have laying around an unfinished (first planking) Serapis hull - so you could take mine and try the best.....
I bought this started kit once on ebay - I was relatively shocked by the mistakes the first owner made, so I put never a hand on the kit
 
Uwek said:
Hallo Christian,

I agree, that the form is looking similar, but the real figures on the measurement were different, so that the Serapis-into-Indefatigable project will have several other scale and proportion problems

Take a look at these measurements

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BTW: I have laying around an unfinished (first planking) Serapis hull - so you could take mine and try the best.....
I bought this started kit once on ebay - I was relatively shocked by the mistakes the first owner made, so I put never a hand on the kit
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Indeed, Serapis is still a two decker, but much smaller and lighter than Indy was before conversion. She is more like the very old fashioned two deck "fregata grossa" of the Venetians and French.
Definitely cannot be used as such, and would be too light if razeed.
 
Something I see the topic has stalled.Why is no one sanctifying the test assembly of a new model from Vanguard Models here.A very decent model looms

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zoly99sask said:
they are developing a kit of the same ship,also we are not going to take images from another forum
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Where can I see information about the development of Maristella?I've only seen Ontario and Speedy.And here a person asked if there was such a kit.I decided to give you a hint.
 
Mr.Deep said:
Where can I see information about the development of Maristella?I've only seen Ontario and Speedy.And here a person asked if there was such a kit.I decided to give you a hint.
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There is not much info about the development but it was mentioned here

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HMS Indefatigable - 1/64 scale

In cooperation between Maris Stella and The Art of Age of Sail, a 1/64 scale kit of Indefatigable as she was razeed from a 64 third-rate to a 44 frigate in 1794 has been in the works and is slated to be released soon. The prototype for the kit is shown here in all her glory. She became a...
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