Kingfisher 1770 1:48 POF

[dockattner]

Love the painting .. the blue is a bit blueish for me but I am sure it will be damn great when finished

Dirk

Thanks, Dirk. I think I agree with you about the tone of the blue. It was even brighter, and I knocked it down a bit with some cobalt ink... At the time I was satisfied with the improvement, but when I looked at it this morning it still hit me as a bit much. Antscherl recommends a Prussian Blue which would have looked less blue.

Although my style is in dark tones (black, dark brown), but your model just suggests lighter tones. I like it!!

Thanks, Sergey.

I love the scroll work Paul, once you add in the various rail pieces, I bet everything will blend together in the fashion shown by Marshall's work. Yes, at first seeing just the blue and red only I thought uh-oh what's he thinking.

Thank you, Daniel. Who said I was thinking?

 

[Nomad]

Paul, your ship, beautiful as it is, just looks too clean for my liking. I can't wait for you to press a compliment of deck hands and watch them tramp mud and dirt all over those altogether too clean-and-tidy planks

 

[iutar]

Hello Paul! Your doubts about the design of the ornament are justified. The fact is that David showed the ornament in his book too primitively and not according to the rules that existed in those years. Some strange spirals are drawn, but a floral and fruit ornament should be drawn, symbolizing prosperity and wealth.
You need to connect all the branches into one, add curls, flowers, leaves and berries.

 

[GrantTyler]

Onward we go. Before anyone could talk me out of adding more color to my model - I went ahead and added more color to my model .

The first step was to sand down the part to be painted, and then tape off the region between the (future) drift rail and planksheer (the very top section). This will be tinted red (I am using water-based inks rather than paint):

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Here is that red band, fore and aft:

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There will be a rail (molding) at the bottom edge of the red (the drift rail).

And now the blue band that runs between the waist rail and the drift rail:

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TFFM provides a generic pattern for the frieze that is to be painted between the waist rail and the drift rail:

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I will not be including the painted panels above the swirly part. Something is amiss and the sheer rail (and the channels) runs right in the middle of the place where the panels go rather than slightly below center. I am off by about 1.5 mm but in a 6 mm band this is a deal breaker.

Swirls...

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These swirly things look OK the further away you are from the ship . But up close they get a more mixed review from me:

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I may try to tune these up later, but right now I am exhausted. The level of concentration necessary just to get this far has left me spent. I'll see what the frieze looks like in the morning and decide if it needs to be worked on some more.

I'm not much of a drinker, but a glass of white burgundy has randomly appeared next to my left hand. Maybe just a sip...

Yes, I know YOU wouldn't have added these colored bands ...

Good morning Paul. Paint or no paint - what ever you do Paul you always deliver beautiful work. I was was wondering how you did those swirls and reading your explanation my reaction was Wow.

I won’t be painting my Enterprise not because I don’t like what you have achieved here, but more because I would just “cock” this up. Thanks. Your glass of burgundy is much deserved. (Only one?). Cheers Grant

 

[AnobiumPunctatum]

If you paint a model with blue color on the sides, you have to show the ornaments. On the real ship it was normally painted black ( without a few exceptions). There exists an Admiralty Order about this theme. In my opinion both ways are relly nice and it’s on the model builder to decide.

The pictures of the drawing are showing one of the exceptions, HM Sloop Fly.

 

[iutar]

On the real ship it was normally painted black ( without a few exceptions)

No. The friezes were painted in blue, red, black, and yellow. Black friezes were popular in the first half of the century (my fourth photo). Later black friezes are rare.
In the second half of the century, black was almost never used for friezes. Everything changed during the American Revolutionary War. After the loss of the main naval bases in America, the British ships were unable to carry out full repairs on their sides after the battle. It was not possible to use different paints, much less restore the ornament. And then the Admiralty allowed captains to simply paint over everything that was damaged during repairs. There was no longer a budget for different paints; supplies on ships were limited to black and yellow/ocher. The captains simply had no choice: they painted everything either only black or only yellow.
However, new ships, or those repaired in the Metropolis, still had red, blue, yellow friezes and applied ornaments. The yellow/black coloring was finally adopted in the nineties, that is, thirty years after the Kingfisher model. So Paul did everything right.

 

[Steef66]

LOL, a big painting job is awaiting Paul. We gonna name you Paul Ross after the job is done.

 

[dockattner]

Good morning Paul. Paint or no paint - what ever you do Paul you always deliver beautiful work. I was was wondering how you did those swirls and reading your explanation my reaction was Wow.

I won’t be painting my Enterprise not because I don’t like what you have achieved here, but more because I would just “cock” this up. Thanks. Your glass of burgundy is much deserved. (Only one?). Cheers Grant

Thanks, Grant. Maybe there was a second .

 

[dockattner]

Hello Paul! Your doubts about the design of the ornament are justified. The fact is that David showed the ornament in his book too primitively and not according to the rules that existed in those years. Some strange spirals are drawn, but a floral and fruit ornament should be drawn, symbolizing prosperity and wealth.
You need to connect all the branches into one, add curls, flowers, leaves and berries.

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My thanks for presenting these images. This level of detail painting directly onto the model itself is beyond my abilities. However, unless my eyes are playing tricks on me, it would seem it was also beyond the abilities of the contemporary builder of the model(s) you showed. That artwork looks to have been painted onto paper (or similar) and then applied to the ship model. That might be possible for me to do. Let me think on this a bit more...

 

[Dubz Modelling World]

Hi Paul, please don't do the paper thingy!! Even your painting are not as complex and exact as the contemporary ones they tell the story .. and much more beautiful as paper on the ship .. imo

cheers

Dirk

 

[Steef66]

My thanks for presenting these images. This level of detail painting directly onto the model itself is beyond my abilities. However, unless my eyes are playing tricks on me, it would seem it was also beyond the abilities of the contemporary builder of the model(s) you showed. That artwork looks to have been painted onto paper (or similar) and then applied to the ship model. That might be possible for me to do. Let me think on this a bit more...

Look how Maarten did this on the alert.

 

[Alan Smith]

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[dockattner]

Look how Maarten did this on the alert.

Very clever. But that ship has sailed as far as this model is concerned. My only option is to cover what I have with something new, or modify what I have directly. Or leave it alone ...

 

[dockattner]

As I continue to contemplate the frieze board painting... my attention turned to the moldings (rails) that festoon the stern of the ship. In order to process these custom rails, it was necessary to create a scraper for each of the unique profiles.

You've all seen it before:



The patterns were made with a cutting disc and cleaned up with files:



This is the result for the tuck molding:





And now in place on the stern of the ship. The lower molding is the tuck molding - the one above it is the lower counter rail (there will eventually be an upper counter rail, but I haven't sorted out the details of that area quite yet):









More to come as I have also made progress on the rails on the side of the ship (along with the channels)...

 

[Daniel20]

Good looking custom moldings Paul. Did you eyeball the profile, or did you have some sort of scaled profile to keep matching it to?

 

[dockattner]

Good looking custom moldings Paul. Did you eyeball the profile, or did you have some sort of scaled profile to keep matching it to?

Thanks, Daniel. The profile is based on a drawing in the TFFM book series - but ended up more of an approximation than a replica.

 

[dockattner]

Onward we go. I've mentioned elsewhere that I have had several false starts creating the channels. Properly constructed the channels are tapered from inboard to outboard on the lower surface (upper surface is horizontal), include a profiled molding along the outboard edge that holds the chains in place - but that molding can't be permanently installed until the deadeye/chains are added - but doing the profile with the channels already installed on the ship would have been difficult if not impossible...

Anyway, it took me a while to figure out an approach that would work for me. Perhaps some pictures will make this all clearer...

The main channel with moldings:



I tacked the moldings onto the channels using white glue:





I then used my little mill to add the profile to the edge:





And then tapered the underside of the channel:



I then carefully removed the moldings and will replace them after the chains have been installed...

The channels were then installed on the ship with pins. The fore channel:



The mizzen channel:



The main channel:



On the earliest versions of these sloops the standards (angle braces) were installed on the upper surface of the channels as shown.

The main channel included some simple ironworks for mounting a studdingsail boom:





I'm sure you couldn't help but notice that some of the rails have already been installed. The waist rail is the lowest molding, the sheer rail runs along the line of the channels, and there will be a drift rail above that (a portion of which you will see in the images that follow). You will also see fenders and a chesstree that intersects the rails:









Before I can continue with the drift rail I need to fabricate the vertical mounts for the swivel guns. Each mount is square for its lower half and octagonal for its upper half. It seems there is always another challenge to solve ...

As always, I am grateful that you stop by now and again to visit.

 

[Herman]

A true piece of art.
And thanks for showing the work order for the construction of the channels.

 

[Thrasher]

Nice job.

 

[Chestcutter]

Brilliant outcome on the channels Paul. These look very challenging to craft.
You have to be pleased with your effort.
Thanks for the detailed explanation.
Michael