Knots

[Roger Pellett]

Jokes aside, people are telling you that the knots that you should to rig your model need to meet two requirements:
1. They need to be secure. I use a drop of clear nail polish to help secure them.

2. At any reasonable modeling scale they need to be invisible.

Trying to tie the exact knot used on the real ship is not only a waste of time, it will also result in an ugly overscale blob.

An exception is the hitch used to belay lines. The figure eight hitch is distinctive.

Roger

 

[MThomas]

Trying to tie the exact knot used on the real ship is not only a waste of time, it will also result in an ugly overscale blob.

"Amen!"

 

[Quint]

HughLo, for many years I struggled and researched books on "knots", which one to use, how to tie them, etc. I did find a handy reference, but I still struggled with actually how to tie the knot. Now my go to reference is YouTube! If you haven't searched the channel, I suggest you give it a try. They have info on every knot, rigging/nautical, that I commonly use. Watching a video of the knot being tied has been of tremendous help to me.

 

[Signet]

I find Knots 3D (Android Version, Apple Version) to be excellent. It lists knots by category, explains usage and has a 3D animated description to show how to do it:

You can control the animation, move it manually or let it play. Very clear and consise.

 

[aferox]

When working at smaller scales I also often use a slip knot because it is very compact.

 

[Friedhelm]

Spaß beiseite, die Leute sagen Ihnen, dass die Knoten, die Sie zum Aufrüsten Ihres Modells verwenden sollten, zwei Anforderungen erfüllen müssen:
1. Sie müssen sicher sitzen. Ich verwende einen Tropfen klaren Nagellack, um sie zu befestigen.

2. In jedem vernünftigen Modellierungsmaßstab müssen sie unsichtbar sein.

Der Versuch, genau den Knoten zu binden, der auf dem echten Schiff verwendet wurde, ist nicht nur Zeitverschwendung, sondern führt auch zu einem hässlichen, überdimensionierten Klumpen.

Eine Ausnahme stellt der Schlag zum Sichern von Leinen dar. Charakteristisch ist der Achterschlag.

Roger

So genannten Knotentafel im Web mal anschauen oder einfach Seemannsknoten eingeben.

 

[MartinJel]

Hi, Hugh: I've copied several articles from several old model building magazines concerning rigging guns. I'll bring them to the next Rocky Mountain Shipwrights worshop, or I'll email them to you if you're in Mexico on July 5th.. Martin

 

[Norgale]

Thanks for all the info so far. Both books look great, but are probably more than Im currently looking for.

Still being new (I still haven’t tackled my first rigging although I’m getting close), I don’t know what knot or hitch to use in a given situation. For example, on my Buccaneer I decided to rig the cannons, something I had not yet done, and something not covered in OcCre’s instructions. I looked thru a number of build logs as well as some google searches, and found the basics, or at least enough for me to decide where rope should go and be mounted/connected.

With the rope(s) in place, I had to decide what type of knot to use. For that I reached out to a friend and followed his recommendation.
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This is but one example of what I’m looking for.

Is there a list of the top knots used in ship modeling and where they are commonly used?

A Top Knot looks like a pony tail and is worn at the top of the head.

 

[Bob Cleek]

A Top Knot looks like a pony tail and is worn at the top of the head.

There are knots,



and then there's fancy rope work.

 

[HughLo]

Hi, Hugh: I've copied several articles from several old model building magazines concerning rigging guns. I'll bring them to the next Rocky Mountain Shipwrights worshop, or I'll email them to you if you're in Mexico on July 5th.. Martin

I’m actually in town and will be at the July workshop!

 

[Larry P.]

I find Knots 3D (Android Version, Apple Version) to be excellent. It lists knots by category, explains usage and has a 3D animated description to show how to do it:
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You can control the animation, move it manually or let it play. Very clear and consise.

Great resource. I came here to mention the same thing.

 

[iceman47]

The classic book, with 592 pages of knots including wonderful illustrations:
The Ashley Book of Knots by Clifford W. Ashley. Copyright 1944.

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Just received my Ashley Book of Knots from Amazon $49. This book is awesome. A lot more info than I need but the info is very interesting. Good purchase.

 

[GaryA]

Have you been to Animated Knots?

That looks like a good site to get to know quickly and learn how to do a knot.

 

[DavidLynam]

I just retired from the OR as a surgical RN and one tip I can give you is always leave enough suture/rope to tie with!! It's always best to use more suture and a well tied knot than have a weak knot that won't take the tension or stress the knot has to endure. We're going to trim the excess anyway!
Dave Lynam

 

[HughLo]

I just retired from the OR as a surgical RN and one tip I can give you is always leave enough suture/rope to tie with!! It's always best to use more suture and a well tied knot than have a weak knot that won't take the tension or stress the knot has to endure. We're going to trim the excess anyway!
Dave Lynam

Thanks for the tip/reminder. Maybe someday I’ll remember it

 

[HughLo]

Have you been to Animated Knots?

I'm finally catching up and just checked out Animated Knots. It looks amazing. Gives me the info I was looking for. Now I'll make a short list of the more common knots (using knots already suggested - other than the Top Knot and then search for them there.