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Hi all. I have recently brought the occre HMS Bounty and was looking to put LED lights in the open hull. I was wondering if anybody has any information on how to wire them up TIA.
 
Hi all. I have recently brought the occre HMS Bounty and was looking to put LED lights in the open hull. I was wondering if anybody has any information on how to wire them up TIA.
I never made a model with lighting, but I guess also this web-page (well known and used by a lot of members) can help you
 
Hi all. I have recently brought the occre HMS Bounty and was looking to put LED lights in the open hull. I was wondering if anybody has any information on how to wire them up TIA.
Hi I used yellow flickering LEDs to light up my Black Pearl they where purchased from eBay (100 for $10). This was the first time I had used LEDs, I found a site on Google where I could enter the number of LEDs and the voltage I was using and it showed me how to wire them up and what resisters to use. See my Black Pearl log for more details.
Hope this helps Tony
 
Hi Tony. I can’t seem to find your Black pearl build log. Is it possible to send a link is your black pearl the Chinese one of ebay.
 
Hi Tony. I can’t seem to find your Black pearl build log.
Here we are

 
My first model, La Couronne, was lit on two decks with flickering provided by a programmable Arduino UNO card hidden in the stern. The second model is having lighting install on all decks. In this first model, wiring was simply attached on the bottom surface of decks with glue and painted over. On the second model, HMS Sovereign of the Seas, 22 gauge wiring is laid on top of the deck beam support structure, and wires are soldered together to form a parallel circuit of 8 nano LEDS which are aimed downward to the deck below. Hiding the wires is the hard part, and pre-planning where the wiring will go and installing the LEDs as you build is important. You could easily make a part of the ship inaccessible to installing lights if you work too far ahead too quickly. I get all my LED's and the AC/DC converters they run off of from Evan's Designs. They were a great help figuring all this out.

Construction photos of La Couronne
161 Test Upper Gun Deck Lights 2.jpg

The electronic Arduino UNO card in the stern castle varies voltage between 1.5-1.2V using a program. The program is a text file downloaded to it using a home computer. Once programmed, six separate circuits would flicker the LED's in different random patterns throughout the ship. This is a lot of extra work for a subtle flicker effect. Just lighting without the flicker is good enough for a model, and in retrospect, more accurate given the scale.
162 Test Upper Gun Deck Lights 3.jpg

Here is a 5mm yellow LED poking out the side of the hull to illuminate the side gallery, which is to be built over the side of the hull
296a Attach Rear Towers and Rig Lighting.jpg

A 5mm yellow LED was placed in the wooden top dome, aimed downward to create indirect lighting.
324 Test Tower Light.jpg

Nano LED's were install in the stern lanterns, two per lantern at different heights.
505 Stern Lanterns.jpg

The final effect
D3200 Moonlilght Shot Using an LED Flashlight.JPG

HMS Sovereign of the Seas lower gun deck lighting. Two wires, positive and negative, were held to the beams with CA glue and staples made with wire and glued into pre-drilled holes. It was the only way to wire beams that are only 3mm x 3mm. There was not enough wood to cut channels in the beams to hold the wires because the structure was delicate.
630 Strip 24g Wires and Overlay Carlings Using Staples and CA Glue.jpg

631 Negative Wire on Left and Positive on Right.jpg

LED's were soldered to the main wires in parallel. Wiring was simply glued to the structure with CA glue. Before that, yellow masking tape held it in place so one could work on soldering.
635 Soldering LED Wires to Bus-Bars.jpg

Twelve LED's. The circuit worked!
639 Light Test.jpg

Thin plywood deck was simply glued onto the support framework, with edges of pieces glued alongside wires instead of on top of them where possible. This is not the bets way to run wiring, and you can come up with several, better planned methods, but it works.
650 Added False Deck on Starboard Side.jpg

The final result before being covered over with decking
WebCam with Light.jpg

With deck completed overhead
WebCam without Light 1.jpg
 
How big does the wire have to be to power these LED's? I worked for the telephone company and the relays we used had wire the size of a hair and smaller. I'm thinking you could stretch it along the top of the beam and hold it in place with shellac or PVA. You could just plank over it, I think.
 
How big does the wire have to be to power these LED's? I worked for the telephone company and the relays we used had wire the size of a hair and smaller. I'm thinking you could stretch it along the top of the beam and hold it in place with shellac or PVA. You could just plank over it, I think.
Since you are making a low voltage circuit with very low current, the wires can be smaller than a human hair. However, these are quite delicate in single strand copper. The wire I used above was 22 gauge, because that's what I had on hand, more than large enough, and it was planked over just fine. The trick was arranging the resistors to be in places that would not affect laying the decking over. I placed them alongside the beams and painted them so you can't see them. Of course, you'd have to be an ant crawling on the deck inside the model to see them.
 
Here we are

Cheers dude. ( sorry for the delay in my reply )
 
My first model, La Couronne, was lit on two decks with flickering provided by a programmable Arduino UNO card hidden in the stern. The second model is having lighting install on all decks. In this first model, wiring was simply attached on the bottom surface of decks with glue and painted over. On the second model, HMS Sovereign of the Seas, 22 gauge wiring is laid on top of the deck beam support structure, and wires are soldered together to form a parallel circuit of 8 nano LEDS which are aimed downward to the deck below. Hiding the wires is the hard part, and pre-planning where the wiring will go and installing the LEDs as you build is important. You could easily make a part of the ship inaccessible to installing lights if you work too far ahead too quickly. I get all my LED's and the AC/DC converters they run off of from Evan's Designs. They were a great help figuring all this out.

Construction photos of La Couronne
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The electronic Arduino UNO card in the stern castle varies voltage between 1.5-1.2V using a program. The program is a text file downloaded to it using a home computer. Once programmed, six separate circuits would flicker the LED's in different random patterns throughout the ship. This is a lot of extra work for a subtle flicker effect. Just lighting without the flicker is good enough for a model, and in retrospect, more accurate given the scale.
View attachment 300891

Here is a 5mm yellow LED poking out the side of the hull to illuminate the side gallery, which is to be built over the side of the hull
View attachment 300892

A 5mm yellow LED was placed in the wooden top dome, aimed downward to create indirect lighting.
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Nano LED's were install in the stern lanterns, two per lantern at different heights.
View attachment 300894

The final effect
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HMS Sovereign of the Seas lower gun deck lighting. Two wires, positive and negative, were held to the beams with CA glue and staples made with wire and glued into pre-drilled holes. It was the only way to wire beams that are only 3mm x 3mm. There was not enough wood to cut channels in the beams to hold the wires because the structure was delicate.
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LED's were soldered to the main wires in parallel. Wiring was simply glued to the structure with CA glue. Before that, yellow masking tape held it in place so one could work on soldering.
View attachment 300900

Twelve LED's. The circuit worked!
View attachment 300901

Thin plywood deck was simply glued onto the support framework, with edges of pieces glued alongside wires instead of on top of them where possible. This is not the bets way to run wiring, and you can come up with several, better planned methods, but it works.
View attachment 300902

The final result before being covered over with decking
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With deck completed overhead
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Quality dude. I’m looking to my bounty with 3mm yellow flickering LED, s . Going to wire in parallel is it possible to use just one resistor for 6 LED ,s or do I have to use a resistor for every LED.
 
Hi all. I have recently brought the occre HMS Bounty and was looking to put LED lights in the open hull. I was wondering if anybody has any information on how to wire them up TIA.
Hello, i will be doing some LED lighting on my two current builds, so if you want you can check it out...

 
Quality dude. I’m looking to my bounty with 3mm yellow flickering LED, s . Going to wire in parallel is it possible to use just one resistor for 6 LED ,s or do I have to use a resistor for every LED.
It is usually done with one resistor per LED. and Evan's Designs sells 3V nano LED's with resistor already built into one lead wire. Those are what I used, and all the LED's and the AC/CD wall plug and transformer are relatively inexpensive. I believe you can calculate the resistance required to using just one resistor located in the main wire that feeds the circuit. The flickering LED's might flicker too much to create the right effect. That's why I programmed the Arduino UNO card to make the flicker very subtle and random. Still, unless you actually want the obnoxious flicker, it's better to leave the lights steady. It depends on your preference. You can always buy one flickering LED and try it out first before you buy more.
 
Quality dude. I’m looking to my bounty with 3mm yellow flickering LED, s . Going to wire in parallel is it possible to use just one resistor for 6 LED ,s or do I have to use a resistor for every LED.
During my 'Railroad Modelling' days I bought SMLED's (surface mount) with wires ready soldered from China via ebay. Saved a lot of frustration soldering & were cheap at something like £4 for 20. I'm also building Bounty but Billings Boats kit, which needs some kit bashing as some of the plan details are for her origin as a collier, Berthia.
 
Enjoyed the thread about installing LEDs. I did that (not as nicely) on a carrier model so one could see some of the hangar deck. LEDs are run by batteries located in an on/off switch box; nothing sophisticated. May consider adding LEDs to a fishing boat model that has lanterns at the bow.
 
It is usually done with one resistor per LED. and Evan's Designs sells 3V nano LED's with resistor already built into one lead wire. Those are what I used, and all the LED's and the AC/CD wall plug and transformer are relatively inexpensive. I believe you can calculate the resistance required to using just one resistor located in the main wire that feeds the circuit. The flickering LED's might flicker too much to create the right effect. That's why I programmed the Arduino UNO card to make the flicker very subtle and random. Still, unless you actually want the obnoxious flicker, it's better to leave the lights steady. It depends on your preference. You can always buy one flickering LED and try it out first before you buy more.
Hi there, I’m a bit sorry a lot of a novice in LED lighting I wired 4 LED,s in parallel with individual resistors but the 4 th one is very dull. By my calculations the LED,s are 1.8 /2.2 volt as described on the packet I’m running them of a 9volt battery so I guess for arguments sake 4x 2 volts is 8 volts is that the reason that the remaining 1volt off the battery is the reason for the dullness. I watched the Evans videos and they run up to 48 LED,s off one 9 volt battery am I doing something wrong.
 
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