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Model of a boat / automaton - End of 19th - beginning 20th century

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Hello everyone,
Recently, I acquired a model of a sailing and steam boat dating from the end of the 19th century whose origin could be UK. . There are different theories, the first one I was told is related to a model based on a prototype designed for the transport of emigrants from the UK to the US in the second half of the 19th Century. However from details in the rigging and other elements it could be a sealer boat converted to artic exploration and could be dating from the beginning of the 20th Century. Any help on refining these theories would be appreciated.

During its inspection, I discovered that the inside of the hull contains a complex mechanism connected to several mechanical elements. This device includes a power-reserve spring, a flywheel, as well as numerous gears, pulleys and cables.

The mechanism is "out of date" and out of use. Neither I nor the previous owner ever saw it work. It is likely that the mechanism was decommissioned and the model transformed into a simple decorative object. It was purchased in 1960 from an auction house in Zurich and was already in the current situation. The son of the previous owner who sold it to me wasn't even aware of the mechanism inside the hull.

In my humble opinion, the mechanism could be reassembled thanks to one of the accessories on the bridge which is connected to the mechanism below by a cogwheel.

Then, once launched, the automaton had to carry out a series of movements, towards the elements present on deck: bilge pumps, anchors, winches as well as towards the rudder and propulsion. However, the most complex part was to allow the lifting and folding of the sails (which no longer exist). There are small holes along the railing and a sophisticated system of pulleys, guides, furlers with different diameters that had to set it all in motion. There are also inverters that allowed the sequence to take place.

Before embarking on the major restoration costs I would have liked to know your opinion about this piece, its interest and its market value for a collector / museum...

Thanks for your help.

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a beautiful build ship model - very good quality in modeling - and with the mechanic devices I think very special...... just an opinion
 
Hello everyone,
Recently, I acquired a model of a sailing and steam boat dating from the end of the 19th century whose origin could be UK. . There are different theories, the first one I was told is related to a model based on a prototype designed for the transport of emigrants from the UK to the US in the second half of the 19th Century. However from details in the rigging and other elements it could be a sealer boat converted to artic exploration and could be dating from the beginning of the 20th Century. Any help on refining these theories would be appreciated.

During its inspection, I discovered that the inside of the hull contains a complex mechanism connected to several mechanical elements. This device includes a power-reserve spring, a flywheel, as well as numerous gears, pulleys and cables.

The mechanism is "out of date" and out of use. Neither I nor the previous owner ever saw it work. It is likely that the mechanism was decommissioned and the model transformed into a simple decorative object. It was purchased in 1960 from an auction house in Zurich and was already in the current situation. The son of the previous owner who sold it to me wasn't even aware of the mechanism inside the hull.

In my humble opinion, the mechanism could be reassembled thanks to one of the accessories on the bridge which is connected to the mechanism below by a cogwheel.

Then, once launched, the automaton had to carry out a series of movements, towards the elements present on deck: bilge pumps, anchors, winches as well as towards the rudder and propulsion. However, the most complex part was to allow the lifting and folding of the sails (which no longer exist). There are small holes along the railing and a sophisticated system of pulleys, guides, furlers with different diameters that had to set it all in motion. There are also inverters that allowed the sequence to take place.

Before embarking on the major restoration costs I would have liked to know your opinion about this piece, its interest and its market value for a collector / museum...

Thanks for your help.

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Awesome work! Thanks for sharing.
 
You have a real treasure there. For valuation I suggest contacting one of the big auction houses for advice.
 
How frightfully fascinating! A late-model Antikytheran device. It doesn't appear that ease of access for lubricating the mechanism was factored into the design.
 
Wow! That is quite some model in its own right, without any consideration of the hidden mysteries lurking below deck.

The model undoubtedly has value due to its age and high standard of construction. To renovate the mechanisms would certainly require seriously dedicated work, and a goodly amount of cash and time.

Its age is harder to guess, but is not necessarily contemporary with the age of the model which is depicted. If the origin is genuinely British, I would suggest that you look into a now-defunct (see below) business formerly based in Northampton, England, which was called 'Bassett-Lowke'. They were a well known and highly reputable firm of model makers, who undertook commissions of all types of models. When I started out in this hobby, nearly 50 years ago now, they were still active, and as I lived nearby, I was able to purchase several sets of Harold Underhill's plans from them. They were an active and successful company for many years, and had a wide-ranging and highly regarded output.

It is certainly a reasonable assumption that their pool of skilled craftsmen could have made this. I would be prepared to bet that it is a special commission, and was not intended to be a 'builder's model', representing a proposed full-size ship which was to be made for a client by a shipyard; which is where a good many of the better quality 19th/early 20th century models which grace many of our museums were created.

I have just checked on Google, and the company seemingly still exists, but is limited to selling (and making?) specialist model train components. How much connection they have with the original business I do not know, but they may be the descendants of that earlier manifestation.

Ratty
 
Hello everyone,
Recently, I acquired a model of a sailing and steam boat dating from the end of the 19th century whose origin could be UK. . There are different theories, the first one I was told is related to a model based on a prototype designed for the transport of emigrants from the UK to the US in the second half of the 19th Century. However from details in the rigging and other elements it could be a sealer boat converted to artic exploration and could be dating from the beginning of the 20th Century. Any help on refining these theories would be appreciated.

During its inspection, I discovered that the inside of the hull contains a complex mechanism connected to several mechanical elements. This device includes a power-reserve spring, a flywheel, as well as numerous gears, pulleys and cables.

The mechanism is "out of date" and out of use. Neither I nor the previous owner ever saw it work. It is likely that the mechanism was decommissioned and the model transformed into a simple decorative object. It was purchased in 1960 from an auction house in Zurich and was already in the current situation. The son of the previous owner who sold it to me wasn't even aware of the mechanism inside the hull.

In my humble opinion, the mechanism could be reassembled thanks to one of the accessories on the bridge which is connected to the mechanism below by a cogwheel.

Then, once launched, the automaton had to carry out a series of movements, towards the elements present on deck: bilge pumps, anchors, winches as well as towards the rudder and propulsion. However, the most complex part was to allow the lifting and folding of the sails (which no longer exist). There are small holes along the railing and a sophisticated system of pulleys, guides, furlers with different diameters that had to set it all in motion. There are also inverters that allowed the sequence to take place.


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Before embarking on the major restoration costs I would have liked to know your opinion about this piece, its interest and its market value for a collector / museum...

Thanks for your help.

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However, of the best works I've seen, to be honest, it wasn't easy, was it?
 
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